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Re: Pornography and the Butterfly Effect

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Post by vinayms » Sun, May 27, 2018, 3:27 PM UTC

I wonder if there is a user content monetization scheme in porn industry. By that I mean whether all those people, regular people and not porn actors, who voluntarily upload videos where they have sex, bathe, undress etc get paid. I think a large portion of such videos are really private but are leaked by bitter exes, or stolen from lost mobiles etc, but there is a portion that is indeed voluntary. I wonder about that.

This would be an interesting sociological development when (or if?) it happens.

Re: Pornography and the Butterfly Effect

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Post by redka » Sun, May 27, 2018, 3:27 PM UTC

erric wrote: post #14

emsy wrote: post #2

>Perhaps the most volatile question: does widely available free porn encourage “incels,” the latest boogeymen from the Internet, and the calls for “enforced monogamy” from e.g. blowhard academics who people inexplicably take serious? In a world where objective journalism doesn’t pay, does every site become Vice?

>”enforced monogamy” from e.g. blowhard academics Are academics advocating wholesale monogamy? That’s usually the field of organized religion.

Jordan Peterson, whose being referenced here explained what he meant[0] and it doesn't seem unreasonable. It's uncharitable to jump to a conclusion here without going beyond our presuppositions.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn60-8Ql_44

Re: Pornography and the Butterfly Effect

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Post by ovao » Sun, May 27, 2018, 3:28 PM UTC

erric wrote: post #16

StavrosK wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"the detrimental effects of addiction on the brain", you mean.

Right. Everything is fine in moderation.

Not everything is fine in moderation. Mainlining sulfuric acid, for example.

Whether porn consumption is fine in moderation is a subject of fair debate. Unfortunately, the science on this is not sufficiently clear.

Re: Pornography and the Butterfly Effect

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Post by knuththetruth » Sun, May 27, 2018, 3:28 PM UTC

unethical_ban wrote: post #4

danharaj wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you want to elaborate?

Rarely would a non-op-ed refer to a group holding an opinion has blowhards that some people inexplicably take seriously. The New York Times does profiles on White Supremacists that have more respectful tones than this.

>The New York Times does profiles on White Supremacists that have more respectful tones than this.

And that’s why America is where it is today!

Re: Pornography and the Butterfly Effect

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Post by the-dude » Sun, May 27, 2018, 3:28 PM UTC

vinayms wrote: post #31

I wonder if there is a user content monetization scheme in porn industry. By that I mean whether all those people, regular people and not porn actors, who voluntarily upload videos where they have sex, bathe, undress etc get paid. I think a large portion of such videos are really private but are leaked by bitter exes, or stolen from lost mobiles etc, but there is a portion that is indeed voluntary. I wonder about tha…

There is ( heard it from a friend ).

Re: Pornography and the Butterfly Effect

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Post by Roritharr » Sun, May 27, 2018, 3:29 PM UTC

vinayms wrote: post #31

I wonder if there is a user content monetization scheme in porn industry. By that I mean whether all those people, regular people and not porn actors, who voluntarily upload videos where they have sex, bathe, undress etc get paid. I think a large portion of such videos are really private but are leaked by bitter exes, or stolen from lost mobiles etc, but there is a portion that is indeed voluntary. I wonder about tha…

In Germany MyDirtyHobby has been active for a very long time and has, from my pov, spearheaded Online User Content Monetization.

Re: Pornography and the Butterfly Effect

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Post by wavefunction » Sun, May 27, 2018, 3:29 PM UTC

PKop wrote: post #5

Here's an enlightening video on the detrimental effects of porn on the brain. Porn addiction shows similar effects as opiates. https://youtu.be/wSF82AwSDiU Related: "NoFap" https://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/

NoFap is of course the pseudo-scientific movement promoted by "Proud Boy" Gavin McInnes. When I consider the constellation of associated movements and groups with these sorts of things I have to step back and say "no."

You have to be careful about what people you associate yourself with and also with the subcultures and thought-forms you submerge yourself in.

Re: Pornography and the Butterfly Effect

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Post by yosito » Sun, May 27, 2018, 3:30 PM UTC

vinayms wrote: post #31

I wonder if there is a user content monetization scheme in porn industry. By that I mean whether all those people, regular people and not porn actors, who voluntarily upload videos where they have sex, bathe, undress etc get paid. I think a large portion of such videos are really private but are leaked by bitter exes, or stolen from lost mobiles etc, but there is a portion that is indeed voluntary. I wonder about tha…

The article mentions makelovenotporn.tv (NSFW). Seems similar to what you're describing.

Re: Pornography and the Butterfly Effect

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet » Sun, May 27, 2018, 3:31 PM UTC

cm2012 wrote: post #13

barkingtoad wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Enforced monogamy, i.e., marriage

That would just be monogamy. The thing people are calling stupid is the idea that low status men should be assigned wives forcefully to prevent them from being sad, which is what some people have actually proposed.

Let's be fair here, no one really cares about them being 'sad', the trouble is that having a lot of sexually frustrated young men around isn't going to help the stability of your society.

Which isn't to say that the way we dealt with this in the past, which was keeping women out of the work force and making them dependent on men for survival and status, is something we should go back to, just that there are consequences we'll have to recognize and deal with somehow.

Re: Pornography and the Butterfly Effect

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Post by elorant » Sun, May 27, 2018, 3:33 PM UTC

vinayms wrote: post #31

I wonder if there is a user content monetization scheme in porn industry. By that I mean whether all those people, regular people and not porn actors, who voluntarily upload videos where they have sex, bathe, undress etc get paid. I think a large portion of such videos are really private but are leaked by bitter exes, or stolen from lost mobiles etc, but there is a portion that is indeed voluntary. I wonder about tha…

What about web cams? I don't know if it qualifies as content in the same context as online porn, but pretty much everyone involved in it are amateurs.