GDPR and the proposed copyright laws will break the internet irrecoverably. The start-up industry will be a long forgotten dream. These old b@$%%%s will turn the internet into cable television. Scumbags would want to go back to a world of slavery, colonisation and wealth locked up as gold in personal treasuries. I hope all the other countries follow suit and then the only thing we will be able to aim for is a job in…
Law's are like playing wackamole when it comes to things like limiting how technology will be (ab)used. In the long run, those with means (resources [and various ways of protecting such], knowledge) will do what they can.
This is blatant fear mongering. Furthermore, calling these directives 'link tax laws' is simply a cheap frame. You can link to articles freely. Including a snippet that has 'no independent economic significance' is allowed. Agreed, that is not very precise. But is that really such a big deal? Sure, you might get sued. That's life. You have to trust the reasonableness of the courts. And don't worry, they won't go afte…
She's asking that people read, learn and get involved in the process early in order to have some influence, so as not to be caught off-guard once these laws are enacted because once enacted, it'd be hard to have change happen. She's talking to a particular audience and that may not mesh with what all publishers in general want.
I had not realized that this insane bit with an inalienable right to monetary remuneration had made it to the drafts. We already know from the past cases that if given the choices between paying for the privilege of linking vs. not linking at all, search engines and social networks will do the latter. The economic value of e.g. news searches must be miniscule. But maybe there is a little bit of value there, even if n…
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I don't necessarily agree but the immediate downvotes anyone receives for questioning the EU's pure intentions is interesting.
People are either extremely trusting of huge global governments or we're being brigaded.
I'm an advisor to several startup European search engines which are likely to be annihilated by the combination of these changes and the GDPR.
Who would start a new search engine in this day and age? You'd need some really unique features which Google can't duplicate, and the only one which seems to have made it is DDG with their privacy promise.
Google's advantage is also its Achilles heel: it is incredibly general purpose and searches the entire web.
Now how much of the web is all that useful? If a search results page on Google is just Google's opinion of what they think you want, what happens if you use a similar-enough algorithm but narrow the scope of the web you index to something more likely to contain information you can actually use?
Google today isn't even as useful to me as Google was 10 years ago. It has noticeably gotten worse. There has to be a fairly large niche there that several more specialized search engines could find a home.
From the associated article about this supposed "link tax". > Anyone using snippets of journalistic online content must first get a license from the publisher. Re-publishing a portion of a published work is not a "link". A link is only a reference (address) where something (e.g. a published work) may be found, which not part of the work itself. Displaying a portion of work might be an allowed "fair use"? (I only know…
You're treating this as a conventional copyright issue, but I'm not sure that's correct. To quote the EFF's summary:
> This isn't a copyright, because the link tax is paid to the publisher rather than the author, and because it is payable even if the portion of the news article taken isn't copyright-protected, falls within a copyright exception, or is freely licensed.
Does anyone know of a good way to comprehensively (and believably, in the eyes of the court) block the EU from your web services? It's getting out of hand, and I'd like to be able to avoid this cost in some cases.
I'm an advisor to several startup European search engines which are likely to be annihilated by the combination of these changes and the GDPR.
Now that you mention it, how are Google themselves deemed to be compliant with the GDPR? If I put up a blog containing my name and email address, and that ends up in a Google search result for my name, have I consented to this use of my personal data just because my blog is on the public web? The infamous "right to be forgotten" (and the robots.txt standard) gives me an ability to opt-out of some uses of the data on…
> have I consented to this use of my personal data just because my blog is on the public web?
Yes, there's a difference between sharing information and publishing it.
I had not realized that this insane bit with an inalienable right to monetary remuneration had made it to the drafts. We already know from the past cases that if given the choices between paying for the privilege of linking vs. not linking at all, search engines and social networks will do the latter. The economic value of e.g. news searches must be miniscule. But maybe there is a little bit of value there, even if n…
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I think there are EU paid shills on HackerNews now. They do exist. I've also noticed they downvote anti-EU post en masse after they've been posted for some time (I have multiple throwaway). Sorry for the tin foil, but it's not normal that when a post is anti-EU it gets upvoted at first and then it suddently falls into oblivion in a short amount of time, like someone suddently noticed. That's not a normal pattern for upvotes/downvotes on these kind of boards.
Honestly it's sad that ycombinators, and many other private companies, have to deal with State-paid actors that influence discussions on their boards.
I'm also not really happy I have to write such inflamatory posts, but while I know I don't have proof I can't stop myself in revealing what I suspect.
In any case we're reaching another point in history where we will soon have to fight for basic human rights in western countries. And when these times come it means that as there are victims there are persecutors. Good times ahead.
Seems like the past 15 years were once-in-history-and-never-again blip where we had some illusion of building a better society. Oh well, my face goes back under the stamping boot...
Probably there have been some other times like this, but we forgot them