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Even if that was true the void will be filled with local competitors.
If a venture is not profitable for Google why do you think it would be profitable for a bootstrapped EU competitor?
So for all those comments on how violations would slowly escalate based on complaints, only turning into huge fees when you blatently ignore all the warnings, in practice we learn that those tiers of escalation only apply to companies the EU likes, is that correct? Because last time I checked, both companies at least made some effort, and as thus should get a last warning calling their bullshit before going full thro…
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If a venture is not profitable for Google why do you think it would be profitable for a bootstrapped EU competitor?
Because not everyone wants to make money by selling out there users. There was advertisement industry before it was even possible to track users.
Reworded my question is, if Google can't make it work why do you think some random company that isn't Google can?
Your response is very emotional and if you aren't interested inc conversing with me civilly please don't.
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Look at what this case is about, Facebook and Google are saying if you want to use our service you need to enable tracking otherwise don't use our service. This lawsuit states that Facebook and Google are not legally allowed to deny service.
I am not a lawyer, but it seems that the plaintiff is basically arguing that, according to GDPR, if you want to offer a service in the EU then you can’t just have users waive their rights under the GDPR. You could not offer a service in the EU, but if you do then you can’t just tell your users “if you want to use our service, then you agree that GDPR does not apply to us.”
So it seems like we will find out if GDPR means European users have a 'right' to use your service for free with this case. If the EU rules against Google and Facebook here I suspect the EU will become a digital wasteland. Companies like Google and Facebook wont leave but you will probably be charged for usage.
??? GDPR doesn’t require that EU users get to use your service for free. If you want to do business in the EU, you have to comply with EU law. If you don’t want to do that, then don’t do business in the EU.
So for all those comments on how violations would slowly escalate based on complaints, only turning into huge fees when you blatently ignore all the warnings, in practice we learn that those tiers of escalation only apply to companies the EU likes, is that correct? Because last time I checked, both companies at least made some effort, and as thus should get a last warning calling their bullshit before going full thro…
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Because not everyone wants to make money by selling out there users. There was advertisement industry before it was even possible to track users.
You actually didn't respond to my question. Reworded my question is, if Google can't make it work why do you think some random company that isn't Google can? Your response is very emotional and if you aren't interested inc conversing with me civilly please don't.
So for all those comments on how violations would slowly escalate based on complaints, only turning into huge fees when you blatently ignore all the warnings, in practice we learn that those tiers of escalation only apply to companies the EU likes, is that correct? Because last time I checked, both companies at least made some effort, and as thus should get a last warning calling their bullshit before going full thro…
If a national data regulator was pushing ahead with £xxM fines your objection might have some merit.
This seems (based on my complete lack of knowledge of the specific facts the cases are arguing) more like patent-trolling or general settlement-shakedowns than organised governmental abuse of powers.
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Even if that was true the void will be filled with local competitors.
If a venture is not profitable for Google why do you think it would be profitable for a bootstrapped EU competitor?
Right now to compete with Google on 'free', their existing search, browser, mobile & advertising operations make it massively difficult for others to compete and extract similar value from users.
But if that's not allowed, and the practical business models involve charging users directly, it might be possible for small businesses to offer enticing services at comparable prices.
So for all those comments on how violations would slowly escalate based on complaints, only turning into huge fees when you blatently ignore all the warnings, in practice we learn that those tiers of escalation only apply to companies the EU likes, is that correct? Because last time I checked, both companies at least made some effort, and as thus should get a last warning calling their bullshit before going full thro…
This isn’t an EU regulator going after violators. This is a private citizen. I believe the fine has to do with state regulators enforcing GDPR.