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Apple's 7nm A12 chip could be the best feature in the 2018 iPhones

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I wish Apple would make a sort of Raspberry Pi like board with an A series chip, ethernet, HDMI, GPIO, SD Card, etc... for $50-$100 that runs Linux. I would also like a flying unicorn. Seriously, a high power SBC at a reasonable price point would be insanely useful for projects like portable MAME cabinets, video transcoders, scene displays, etc... I love the Pi but it's so old tech, especially the video cores, that i…

Odroid N1 is getting close.

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I'm confused as to how you have a computer with only a single port... what do you imagine plugging the one port into?

For most of the day my Macbook Pro is basically a computer with one port plugged into a dock with its case shut since I like using my LG 21x9 screen more than the built in screen.

Right but your Macbook has a large battery. Something it wouldn't really make sense to have if you were going for a very small form factor.

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I'm confused as to how you have a computer with only a single port... what do you imagine plugging the one port into?

Previous MacBook 12” user here. Either power, or peripherals. Just not at the same time.

Macbooks have large batteries. Wouldn't make sense to have one in this if you're going for as small as possible form factor.

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Can someone explain to me why this matters? It feels like CPU advancements in recent memory have brought nothing at all. It used to be, in the early days of smartphones, every generation brought something very new, something that can truly be considered an improvement. I remember the first dual core phone, the first quad core, etc. Nowadays, there is no noticeable difference at all. Even now, where phones have indeed…

Games! More polygons, better frame rates, the usual... Except for the fact that we're still limited by an imprecise and rather limited input device (touchscreen) that has barely changed in a decade...

Too true. Selecting text is still as worse as I remember it always being. But the battery life could be into the days. The processing capabilities may be similarly improved too. It’s not a nothing upgrade.

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Perhaps Apple could introduce a Mac Mini with an iPad-class version of the A12 for all people that need to develop for iOS but don't want to spend a ton on hardware. The basic tools like Xcode and some Apple productivity software could already be ported, most developer toolchains would follow. The Simulator would have realistic CPU characteristics. And Apple would ease in on the transition to macOS-ARM.

If they did that it would need to have the profit margin of an iPhone or iPad, at least. But frankly, I don’t know why they seem to hate the traditional form factors so much. The last time they upgraded the Mac Pro they said “we’ll totally never make you wait this long for a Mac Pro upgrade again.” Yet here we are.

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I wish Apple would make a sort of Raspberry Pi like board with an A series chip, ethernet, HDMI, GPIO, SD Card, etc... for $50-$100 that runs Linux. I would also like a flying unicorn. Seriously, a high power SBC at a reasonable price point would be insanely useful for projects like portable MAME cabinets, video transcoders, scene displays, etc... I love the Pi but it's so old tech, especially the video cores, that i…

Apple is so in love with walled gardens. I can't imagine them ever making truly open hardware. Perhaps they are uniquely qualified to make something open because of the amount of effort they have put into making things that are closed.

It's not that they love walled gardens, it's that they have different priorities than other companies. Users and usability are their primary concerns. Everything else is done to support that.

They have open-source initiatives, they like to be open like that when it doesn't interfere with those mandates. It's just that usability is such a huge thing that it impacts every step of their process.

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> Seriously, a high power SBC at a reasonable price point would be insanely useful for projects like portable MAME cabinets Right now one can buy an Exynos5422, which CPU wise (I've never tested the GPU) is 4/5+ times as fast as an RPi 3b, for the price point mentioned ( For me, this is effectively a "high power SBC at a reasonable price", however, at the same time, users interested in SBCs (or micro-PCs) seem to hav…

Link/source ? Btw imho the worst part about RPi is that it has poor ethernet performance. This improved a bit with RPi 3+, but still meh.

They'll fix it in the RPi 4 and then you can complain they don't have 10Gbit support, so at least you have those two things to look forward to.

Re: Apple's 7nm A12 chip could be the best feature in the 2018 iPhones

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Can someone explain to me why this matters? It feels like CPU advancements in recent memory have brought nothing at all. It used to be, in the early days of smartphones, every generation brought something very new, something that can truly be considered an improvement. I remember the first dual core phone, the first quad core, etc. Nowadays, there is no noticeable difference at all. Even now, where phones have indeed…

Why would Apple cannibalize their desktop products?

Apple wants to sell more devices, not less. And it also helps their iCloud business (which wouldn't exist if everybody had only one device).

Re: Apple's 7nm A12 chip could be the best feature in the 2018 iPhones

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Can someone explain to me why this matters? It feels like CPU advancements in recent memory have brought nothing at all. It used to be, in the early days of smartphones, every generation brought something very new, something that can truly be considered an improvement. I remember the first dual core phone, the first quad core, etc. Nowadays, there is no noticeable difference at all. Even now, where phones have indeed…

Why would Apple cannibalize their desktop products? Apple wants to sell more devices, not less. And it also helps their iCloud business (which wouldn't exist if everybody had only one device).

I guess I'm not really talking about it from a business-centric perspective, but rather one of progress. This is where I feel the next step in mobile computing lies, given these advancements in mobile CPU. But you're right, perhaps it does not make business sense, and that's why we're not seeing it.

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Why would Apple cannibalize their desktop products? Apple wants to sell more devices, not less. And it also helps their iCloud business (which wouldn't exist if everybody had only one device).

I guess I'm not really talking about it from a business-centric perspective, but rather one of progress. This is where I feel the next step in mobile computing lies, given these advancements in mobile CPU. But you're right, perhaps it does not make business sense, and that's why we're not seeing it.

I guess that too little competition means that progress has to give in to the business side of things.
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