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Good luck downloading apps though. I can't see how it's necessary for Google to track all your stuff, just to permit you to download an app.
You can use third party app repositories like the FOSS-only F-Droid, or even simply download apps directly from individual creators if they release the apk.
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Yes, and before that it says ` If the data subject's consent is given in the context of a written declaration which also concerns other matters,` which means i can use legalese but only if it does not concern other matters in the same document? :)
You'd hope not, but I also thought the phrasing in that sentence was sloppy.
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> and isn't given an option to decline consent to Googles ToS You can turn off the phone and sell it on Ebay
If you live in the USA. However, as an European you have more rights, and in the next years we will witness a lot of battles between EU users and American corporations desperately trying to maintain the old status quo.
> "The GDPR explicitly allows any data processing that is strictly necessary for the service - but using the data additionally for advertisement or to sell it on needs the users' free opt-in consent" This is the key point. As the saying goes, on Facebook, you aren't the customer, you are the product. The GDPR just changed this -- rightfully, in my opinion.
Somebody has to pay for it in the end, so Facebook could simply say "agree to targeted advertising and use the site for free or do not agree and pay a monthly fee for the site".
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I’m pretty sure Facebook can’t do that. The point of the GDPR, as I understand it, is to make control of your data a right which can’t be bargained away, much like employers can’t try to bargain away your right to sick leave.
depends really, the law says you can't deny service, but doesnt say you get to get the exact same service. I would expect the same for people who deny ad cookies - they 'll get more ads shown.
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The 4% of worldwide revenue aspect is almost exclusively pointed at the giant US tech companies. Europe has few meaningfully large tech companies, with large global sales, such that taxing worldwide revenue matters (this is why they didn't just make it an EU revenue tax). It's meant to try to plunder some of the global revenue that Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Netflix, Apple, Amazon, Twitter, Snapchat, etc. are gener…
> Europe should learn to build better tech, and learn to pay their engineers what they're actually worth if they want to compete with the US that pays 3x or 5x more. I'm an European and I must say that's bullshit. Yes, you can earn 3x to 5x more in Silicon Valley. Property prices are crazy expensive however, many people don't afford to live near their office, with crazy commute times being common, the schools there a…
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Default logging settings retain log files forever?
I don't know how long you are allowed to store PII under GDPR (I'm not a lawyer) This article indicates that default settings are problematic: https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/gdpr-web-server-logs > All of these logs contains personal information by default under the new regulation. IP addresses are specifically defined as personal data per Article 4, Point 1; and Recital 49. The logs can also contain usernames if your we…
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> Saying that tracking individuals is necessary for getting revenue is disingenuous. I'm definitely not saying that. I'm saying non-targeted ads generate a lot less money than targeted ones which means the content on the internet won't be as good as companies will generate less money to pay for the content. In the extreme cases as we are seeing now, businesses are shutting down or blocking all EU users because the pe…
Shutting down or blocking all EU users is perfectly fine by me. At least I'd know which are the companies I should stay away from. But no, it won't happen, because the EU is the world's second biggest market. If China can afford to coerce companies into censorship and violating people's rights, the EU can afford to impose some privacy laws as well. And as I've been saying elsewhere, targeted ads are only needed at th…
Take this with a grain of salt since I am not from China and really only know about it from HN: The EU is not nearly as powerful as the Chinese government nor do I think the general Chinese population is aware of how much better G/FB/other sites are outside of china (admittedly speculation on all accounts), nor are they in a country where they can vote to change laws (pretty sure on this one from what I have read on HN).
If G/FB suddenly stopped supporting EU users, they would most likely cry out so loud that the law would get reversed in days. This law seems to target privacy and opt-ins mostly and I as a programmer don't even give a shit about those since they give me amazing services for it. I highly think most people want the free apps with targeted ads over a full block or paywalls.
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Google has a checklist of things that each OEM has to do in order to distribute the Google Apps, which are not open source. If the OEMs are in compliance with Google's terms for OEM distributors, I would say that it is an issue with Google's terms. I am curious, I have a Samsung device and I note that I can't uninstall Gmail. Is that Google's choice or Samsung's choice?
honestly, i think the best choice would be to 'accept', and use the google services, or deny -- and just not get any google apps installed. this would give privacy oriented people the option to simply opt out of anything google and still uphold the pretty good stock experience. but this is imo still not google's task. OEMs choose to just flash google's services and apps by default right into their OS. that should onl…
> "The GDPR explicitly allows any data processing that is strictly necessary for the service - but using the data additionally for advertisement or to sell it on needs the users' free opt-in consent" This is the key point. As the saying goes, on Facebook, you aren't the customer, you are the product. The GDPR just changed this -- rightfully, in my opinion.
Somebody has to pay for it in the end, so Facebook could simply say "agree to targeted advertising and use the site for free or do not agree and pay a monthly fee for the site".