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Apple's 7nm A12 chip could be the best feature in the 2018 iPhones

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Re: Apple's 7nm A12 chip could be the best feature in the 2018 iPhones

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I wish Apple would make a sort of Raspberry Pi like board with an A series chip, ethernet, HDMI, GPIO, SD Card, etc... for $50-$100 that runs Linux. I would also like a flying unicorn. Seriously, a high power SBC at a reasonable price point would be insanely useful for projects like portable MAME cabinets, video transcoders, scene displays, etc... I love the Pi but it's so old tech, especially the video cores, that i…

> Seriously, a high power SBC at a reasonable price point would be insanely useful for projects like portable MAME cabinets

Right now one can buy an Exynos5422, which CPU wise (I've never tested the GPU) is 4/5+ times as fast as an RPi 3b, for the price point mentioned (For me, this is effectively a "high power SBC at a reasonable price", however, at the same time, users interested in SBCs (or micro-PCs) seem to have a wildly different array of requirements (I've read virtually everything: (very) low price, GPU, kernel support, open source drivers, arch, ports, form factor, etc.etc.), so a desirable SBC seems like a pipe dream due to the fuzziness of the requirements.

(For reference, the CPU performance ratio is calculated on single-core performance of a generic RPi 3b core vs. a fast Exynos5422 core, on OpenVPN maximal bandwidth).

Re: Apple's 7nm A12 chip could be the best feature in the 2018 iPhones

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Similarities between iOS and macOS don't have much to do with it. The reason the Android emulator is slow is that it is actually emulating an ARM CPU. The iOS simulator, on the other hand, is running an iOS natively built for x86, and Xcode targets the x86 architecture when you build your app for the simulator.

It certainly doesn’t hurt that the simulator only needs to run the iOS front end on top of macOS Darwin instead of a full copy of iOS, though. Couldn’t something similar be done with Android on Linux, running x86 Android and using the host system’s kernel?

There's a lot of Android specific kernel interfaces that'd have to be added to the desktop. Stuff like the binder IPC. It's doable, but work.

Re: Apple's 7nm A12 chip could be the best feature in the 2018 iPhones

#84

I wish Apple would make a sort of Raspberry Pi like board with an A series chip, ethernet, HDMI, GPIO, SD Card, etc... for $50-$100 that runs Linux. I would also like a flying unicorn. Seriously, a high power SBC at a reasonable price point would be insanely useful for projects like portable MAME cabinets, video transcoders, scene displays, etc... I love the Pi but it's so old tech, especially the video cores, that i…

Worse is the array of smart devices that are forced to use Android type hardware / Android OS. Looking at the Peloton cycle I have specifically which clearly runs Android OS. Could be so much better if it was on faster hardware / could link up to Apple Watch for stats. Make a version of iOS that companies can build off of; maintain the OS patch cycles but let them put their own app / front end on it. Tons of smart de…

That's an interestingly spun perspective. So you're asking for Apple to produce an open source ecosystem around their hardware and OS, while simultaneously refusing to use the products of the company that did?

No devices are "forced" to use "Android type hardware / Android OS". They use it because it's free. That's... important. Right?

Re: Apple's 7nm A12 chip could be the best feature in the 2018 iPhones

#85

I wish Apple would make a sort of Raspberry Pi like board with an A series chip, ethernet, HDMI, GPIO, SD Card, etc... for $50-$100 that runs Linux. I would also like a flying unicorn. Seriously, a high power SBC at a reasonable price point would be insanely useful for projects like portable MAME cabinets, video transcoders, scene displays, etc... I love the Pi but it's so old tech, especially the video cores, that i…

So basically a PC with GPIO? NVIDIA Jetson is the closest you can get in terms of performance, but the price is closer to $500. DX2 specs: GPU: NVIDIA Pascal™, 256 CUDA cores (1302MHz) CPU: HMP Dual Denver 2/2 MB L2 + Quad ARM® A57/2 MB L2 (1.4Ghz/2Ghz) Video: 4K x 2K 60 Hz Encode (HEVC) and 4K x 2K 60 Hz Decode (12-Bit Support) Memory: 8 GB 128 bit LPDDR4 (59.7 GB/s) Display: 2x DSI, 2x DP 1.2 / HDMI 2.0 / eDP 1.4 C…

*TX2

Also it has a student discount to only $300 which imo makes it much more compelling if you're eligible.

Re: Apple's 7nm A12 chip could be the best feature in the 2018 iPhones

#86

I wish Apple would make a sort of Raspberry Pi like board with an A series chip, ethernet, HDMI, GPIO, SD Card, etc... for $50-$100 that runs Linux. I would also like a flying unicorn. Seriously, a high power SBC at a reasonable price point would be insanely useful for projects like portable MAME cabinets, video transcoders, scene displays, etc... I love the Pi but it's so old tech, especially the video cores, that i…

> Seriously, a high power SBC at a reasonable price point would be insanely useful for projects like portable MAME cabinets Right now one can buy an Exynos5422, which CPU wise (I've never tested the GPU) is 4/5+ times as fast as an RPi 3b, for the price point mentioned ( For me, this is effectively a "high power SBC at a reasonable price", however, at the same time, users interested in SBCs (or micro-PCs) seem to hav…

Link/source ?

Btw imho the worst part about RPi is that it has poor ethernet performance. This improved a bit with RPi 3+, but still meh.

Re: Apple's 7nm A12 chip could be the best feature in the 2018 iPhones

#87

Have chips ever been critical features? I mean the ones that add features like NFC ok, but doesn't every chip make phones "faster"?

The 508 in my Nexus 5X is not quite quick enough to be smooth all the time so I can definitely see an improvement jumping to a more modern SOC. But the improvements have slowed down as mobile hit the same sort of limits that desktop had already exposed and now it is on for the same very slow progression of improvement.

Re: Apple's 7nm A12 chip could be the best feature in the 2018 iPhones

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I'm not really impressed by this article. I don't see much of a performance improvements in desktop CPUs, so I don't expect them in mobile CPUs as well. They were catching desktop CPUs until recently, but now they are playing on even field, so I doubt that it would be 25% in single-thread. Sure, they could drop more cores, but that's it and only for specific workloads. Also I'm not even sure that I need that performa…

You would want the performance for new deep learning applications (for example better images with low light conditions)

Re: Apple's 7nm A12 chip could be the best feature in the 2018 iPhones

#89

I wish Apple would make a sort of Raspberry Pi like board with an A series chip, ethernet, HDMI, GPIO, SD Card, etc... for $50-$100 that runs Linux. I would also like a flying unicorn. Seriously, a high power SBC at a reasonable price point would be insanely useful for projects like portable MAME cabinets, video transcoders, scene displays, etc... I love the Pi but it's so old tech, especially the video cores, that i…

So basically a PC with GPIO? NVIDIA Jetson is the closest you can get in terms of performance, but the price is closer to $500. DX2 specs: GPU: NVIDIA Pascal™, 256 CUDA cores (1302MHz) CPU: HMP Dual Denver 2/2 MB L2 + Quad ARM® A57/2 MB L2 (1.4Ghz/2Ghz) Video: 4K x 2K 60 Hz Encode (HEVC) and 4K x 2K 60 Hz Decode (12-Bit Support) Memory: 8 GB 128 bit LPDDR4 (59.7 GB/s) Display: 2x DSI, 2x DP 1.2 / HDMI 2.0 / eDP 1.4 C…

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Re: Apple's 7nm A12 chip could be the best feature in the 2018 iPhones

#90

I wish Apple would make a sort of Raspberry Pi like board with an A series chip, ethernet, HDMI, GPIO, SD Card, etc... for $50-$100 that runs Linux. I would also like a flying unicorn. Seriously, a high power SBC at a reasonable price point would be insanely useful for projects like portable MAME cabinets, video transcoders, scene displays, etc... I love the Pi but it's so old tech, especially the video cores, that i…

> I wish Apple would make a sort of Raspberry Pi like board with an A series chip

Likely outcome of the unlikely discovery of some lost ancient document that somehow makes The Woz indisputable CEO for life.

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