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Apple's 7nm A12 chip could be the best feature in the 2018 iPhones

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Re: Apple's 7nm A12 chip could be the best feature in the 2018 iPhones

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I thought the point of ipad was to ditch the clamshell design?

I think it was, but if most people who use them for work are sticking keyboards back on them then it might make sense to offer a clamshell or hybrid design.

How about a DualPad - it's a clamshell with an upper and a lower iPad. When you separate them, they're just iPads, but when combined they become something more powerful with different features.

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Apple chips famously have Imagination GPUs that have zero open-source support, a far ways off even from Nvidia. They are the absolute worst. That's before you consider that all the stuff Apple did to that poor ARM probably means you can't even boot Linux into a terminal on it today.

>Apple chips famously have Imagination GPUs Not anymore, Apple switched to in-house GPUs recently.

That makes it worse? The Imagination crap is shipped on Android phones, too, so there are at least vendor kernel drops to work from.

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The dearth of WWDC rumors this year is really amazing to me. Apple really is taking leaks very seriously. We're 10 days away from the keynote, and absolutely nothing is getting out. This speculation is the best that Macworld can do? No offense to them, but I mean, the rumors are slim pickings. I really hope that Apple fixes its laptop lineup at WWDC. It's a complete and total shitshow right now. And that's coming fro…

You're right -- this has been a very rumorless year. Interesting given how many leaks we've seen over the last couple of years; I guess someone got serious about tightening up. Or, of course, there's nothing much coming. You're dead right on the laptop lineup. Touchbar, whatever, I don't think that's an enormous issue one way or the other -- but the incoherency of the tech specs matters a bunch.

They did tighten up leaks. There was a big internal meeting about how Apple is actually not only firing people but also prosecuting them--which was promptly leaked.

And yeah, it's also possible that there's nothing really exciting coming that's worth leaking.

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Apple chips famously have Imagination GPUs that have zero open-source support, a far ways off even from Nvidia. They are the absolute worst. That's before you consider that all the stuff Apple did to that poor ARM probably means you can't even boot Linux into a terminal on it today.

It's a completely locked down system - does it matter if the GPU isn't open source?

Maybe I misunderstood "portable MAME cabinets, video transcoders, scene displays" and the comparison to the RPi but surely the intention is to run your own code on it from the bootloader up?

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I wish Apple would make a sort of Raspberry Pi like board with an A series chip, ethernet, HDMI, GPIO, SD Card, etc... for $50-$100 that runs Linux. I would also like a flying unicorn. Seriously, a high power SBC at a reasonable price point would be insanely useful for projects like portable MAME cabinets, video transcoders, scene displays, etc... I love the Pi but it's so old tech, especially the video cores, that i…

The rock64 and variants should do what you're looking for.

Re: Apple's 7nm A12 chip could be the best feature in the 2018 iPhones

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I wish Apple would make a sort of Raspberry Pi like board with an A series chip, ethernet, HDMI, GPIO, SD Card, etc... for $50-$100 that runs Linux. I would also like a flying unicorn. Seriously, a high power SBC at a reasonable price point would be insanely useful for projects like portable MAME cabinets, video transcoders, scene displays, etc... I love the Pi but it's so old tech, especially the video cores, that i…

Releasing a chip like that would be close to useless without also developing a user-friendly hobbyist API like the Raspberry PI and Arduino's already have.

Releasing the chip plus a nice users manual of all of its registers and assembly instructions might pose a security threat for device jail-breaks that they probably aren't interested in either.

Re: Apple's 7nm A12 chip could be the best feature in the 2018 iPhones

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I wish Apple would make a sort of Raspberry Pi like board with an A series chip, ethernet, HDMI, GPIO, SD Card, etc... for $50-$100 that runs Linux. I would also like a flying unicorn. Seriously, a high power SBC at a reasonable price point would be insanely useful for projects like portable MAME cabinets, video transcoders, scene displays, etc... I love the Pi but it's so old tech, especially the video cores, that i…

Someone recommended in an article an ODRIOD-C2 over a Raspberry Pi. They said you get quite a bit of performance spending just a little more ($40). Here's a comparison:

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=raspberr...

I might buy one depending on what feedback I get on it. Anyone here tried those out for Linux or BSD projects?

Re: Apple's 7nm A12 chip could be the best feature in the 2018 iPhones

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I wish Apple would make a sort of Raspberry Pi like board with an A series chip, ethernet, HDMI, GPIO, SD Card, etc... for $50-$100 that runs Linux. I would also like a flying unicorn. Seriously, a high power SBC at a reasonable price point would be insanely useful for projects like portable MAME cabinets, video transcoders, scene displays, etc... I love the Pi but it's so old tech, especially the video cores, that i…

Surely there's got to be something like that available already. I'm mostly dealing with low powered M0/M4 boards, but the selection in this range is massive.

Well, the price is wrong, but nvidia's Jetson platform is very powerful compared to the *board SBCs:

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=march-20...

Re: Apple's 7nm A12 chip could be the best feature in the 2018 iPhones

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I wish Apple would make a sort of Raspberry Pi like board with an A series chip, ethernet, HDMI, GPIO, SD Card, etc... for $50-$100 that runs Linux. I would also like a flying unicorn. Seriously, a high power SBC at a reasonable price point would be insanely useful for projects like portable MAME cabinets, video transcoders, scene displays, etc... I love the Pi but it's so old tech, especially the video cores, that i…

So basically a PC with GPIO?

NVIDIA Jetson is the closest you can get in terms of performance, but the price is closer to $500.

DX2 specs:

GPU: NVIDIA Pascal™, 256 CUDA cores (1302MHz)

CPU: HMP Dual Denver 2/2 MB L2 + Quad ARM® A57/2 MB L2 (1.4Ghz/2Ghz)

Video: 4K x 2K 60 Hz Encode (HEVC) and 4K x 2K 60 Hz Decode (12-Bit Support)

Memory: 8 GB 128 bit LPDDR4 (59.7 GB/s)

Display: 2x DSI, 2x DP 1.2 / HDMI 2.0 / eDP 1.4

CSI: Up to 6 Cameras (2 Lane) CSI2 D-PHY 1.2 (2.5 Gbps/Lane)

PCIE: Gen 2 | 1x4 + 1x1 OR 2x1 + 1x2

Data Storage: 32 GB eMMC, SDIO, SATA

Other: CAN, UART, SPI, I2C, I2S, GPIOs

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I think its only a matter of time before apple unveils what's basically high spec clamshell iPad pro and stops making new macbooks.

I disagree, I think they are doing a full about-face with these latest generation of garbage MBPs and I am hopeful for the refreshes. A lesson many will learn the hard way, eventually, is you don't scorn your power users because they are an endless source of evangelism and free marketing for your product.

> a full about-face

I'd expect double-down on that in fact.

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