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Flipping the Metabolic Switch: Applying the Health Benefits of Fasting

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Re: Flipping the Metabolic Switch: Applying the Health Benefits of Fasting

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Post by not_a_moth »

DanielBMarkham wrote: post #10

Like many programmers, especially us older folks, I've struggled with my weight my entire life. Three weeks ago I went on a ketogenic diet. This week I've added intermittent fasting, only eating between noon and six. After the "keto flu" period ended, it's been quite enjoyable. The IF comes quite naturally and is painless. I'm not one to spot diet trends, but my intuition says that keto/IF will be a big thing over th…

Let's not lump keto and IF together... IF from what I understand has more substantial as well as proven health benefits (related to stem cells, celluar autophagy, etc.). Whereas keto cannot make the same kind of claims; if you just keep your carbs relatively low you'll probably achieve a similar effect as keto.

Re: Flipping the Metabolic Switch: Applying the Health Benefits of Fasting

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Post by scaryclam »

scottLobster wrote: post #35
amelius wrote: post #13

Sounds great, but is this compatible with: - bodybuilding - 20 miles daily commute by bicycle - intellectually intense work, e.g. hackathons ?

I've done HIIT in a fasted state just fine, and intellectually I actually feel sharper when fasting, which makes some sense. If we couldn't focus our senses while running on stored fat, the human race would have died out a long time ago. There's some data corroborating this, albeit small studies: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18779282 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7473300

Anecdotally, if I have something important to do and it's before lunch, I'll delay eating as it seems to slow down my thinking. Not exactly evidence, but thinking on an empty stomach seems to work for me.

Re: Flipping the Metabolic Switch: Applying the Health Benefits of Fasting

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Post by redmaverick »

hudibras wrote: post #7
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #3

12 hours? Sounds like just skipping breakfast would constitute as intermittent fasting for me. My breakfast is usually pretty light anyway.

You're exactly right. Just skip breakfast and don't eat snacks after dinner and you'll be at 16 hours easy. Try it for a week and see how you feel. I've been IF'ing for 15 months now and it's great. Lost 20 pounds without even trying and have more energy during the day.

What time do you eat and how many times. Did it improve your concentration?

Re: Flipping the Metabolic Switch: Applying the Health Benefits of Fasting

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Post by pmarreck »

gdubs wrote: post #37
DanielBMarkham wrote: post #10

Like many programmers, especially us older folks, I've struggled with my weight my entire life. Three weeks ago I went on a ketogenic diet. This week I've added intermittent fasting, only eating between noon and six. After the "keto flu" period ended, it's been quite enjoyable. The IF comes quite naturally and is painless. I'm not one to spot diet trends, but my intuition says that keto/IF will be a big thing over th…

Anecdotally what’s helped me get through the initial crappy feeling of cutting carbs is to eat more fat / protein and stay plenty hydrated. (Plus plenty of sleep.)

I become an asshole when I've cut most or all carbs.

I don't know how to push through that.

Re: Flipping the Metabolic Switch: Applying the Health Benefits of Fasting

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Post by pmarreck »

hudibras wrote: post #7
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #3

12 hours? Sounds like just skipping breakfast would constitute as intermittent fasting for me. My breakfast is usually pretty light anyway.

You're exactly right. Just skip breakfast and don't eat snacks after dinner and you'll be at 16 hours easy. Try it for a week and see how you feel. I've been IF'ing for 15 months now and it's great. Lost 20 pounds without even trying and have more energy during the day.

I mean... it's literally named "break fast" for a reason!

Re: Flipping the Metabolic Switch: Applying the Health Benefits of Fasting

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Post by pmccarren »

nissarup wrote: post #40
pmccarren wrote: post #36

I highly recommend looking into the work of Dr. Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D. She has extensive material explaining the science behind IF, and many other topics relating to bio pathways and aging. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6KClPkotxM https://www.foundmyfitness.com/

And broccoli sprouts! Don't forget the broccoli sprouts! Jesting aside. She is cool, talks very fast and deliver an awful lot of information in a short time.

Hah gotta get that sulforaphane!

Though I do agree - her podcasts can sometimes be a bit of an information overload for those who aren't biomed folk. However in my opinion, her youtube channel[1] is significantly easier to follow as there are often animations and more lengthly explanations.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/foundmyfitness

Re: Flipping the Metabolic Switch: Applying the Health Benefits of Fasting

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Post by mikeklaas »

sameAsYou wrote: post #27
mnort wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Folks in the keto/fasting space seem to present salted water as a good option here

Also, bone broth, chicken broth and vegetable broth.

How does that work? Doesn't broth generally have calories?

Re: Flipping the Metabolic Switch: Applying the Health Benefits of Fasting

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Post by 121watts »

projectramo wrote: post #43

What if you have to exercise? Should one exercise while fasting? Or to put it another way, if you only eat between 10am and 6pm (let's say), what is the best time to exercise? Before work or after work?

That depends on the type of exercise you're doing.
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