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Things to know about the GDPR, Mozilla and Firefox

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Re: Things to know about the GDPR, Mozilla and Firefox

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Post by LandR »

exikyut wrote: post #8
xd1936 wrote: post #3

That's a powerful headline, but unless I'm being A/B tested, it has little to do with the article. Did you mean to link to "13 things to know about the GDPR"?

It seems to have been modeled off of https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/8m0f03/mozilla_wil...

I got the email from mozilla too, where they say it's not another privacy policy update and link to that same blog post.

I guess from the email it was implied that they are already compliant, but then the linked blog post in the email in no way confirms that...

Weird.

The email said:

>> Does it seem like every service, app or subscription you've signed up for is sending you a privacy policy update? It's all because of the General Data Protection Regulation, aka the "GDPR," a sweeping new European regulation taking effect this Friday.

GDPR has implications for many organizations, and that includes Mozilla. But unlike other organizations, Mozilla has always stood for and practiced data privacy principles that are at the heart of privacy laws like the GDPR. It feels like the rest of the world is catching up to where we've been all along.

Re: Things to know about the GDPR, Mozilla and Firefox

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Post by krageon »

jhall1468 wrote: post #5
dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #2

Moreover, many EU companies don't need to update it either.

And a ton of non-EU companies don't, but are doing so for future purposes. Despite territorial scope, a company without any form of business in the EU, they can't entorce this against non-EU businesses.

You are wrong. This is a misconception that has thankfully died down a bit over the past week or so, but apparently it is still a bit alive. There are accords in place between (for example) the US and the EU, which allows the EU to hand out fines overseas. The reverse is also true (the US can and does litigate in the EU).

Re: Things to know about the GDPR, Mozilla and Firefox

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Post by daxorid »

bausshf wrote: post #6
jhall1468 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And a ton of non-EU companies don't, but are doing so for future purposes. Despite territorial scope, a company without any form of business in the EU, they can't entorce this against non-EU businesses.

They can.

Care to elaborate? In which US court does the EU have standing to bring suit against a US citizen or corporation for violation of regulations the US does not recognize by either law or treaty?

Re: Things to know about the GDPR, Mozilla and Firefox

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Post by dekrg »

That's interesting as what it's website privacy policy actually says looks the exact opposite of GDPR compliant. From https://www.mozilla.org/privacy/websites/ which is linked from as Privacy link from https://addons.mozilla.org.

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Re: Things to know about the GDPR, Mozilla and Firefox

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Post by stevespang »

What a striking coincidence who the article uses as their sole example under "Violations":

10. Violations will cost big.

Like, really big. In the past, penalties for irresponsible data collection and management were low enough that it was, perhaps, more profitable for big players to eat the fines. Now, however, “organizations in breach of the GDPR can be fined up to 4% of annual global turnover or €20 Million (whichever is greater).” While it’s still unclear what a “significant” violation would be, here’s how a fine could add up for for Alphabet, the holding company of Google. Alphabet made $110 billion in 2017, so a significant violation against the GDPR could result in a whopping $4.4 billion fine. (!!!)

Re: Things to know about the GDPR, Mozilla and Firefox

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Post by Finnucane »

bausshf wrote: post #4
dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #2

Moreover, many EU companies don't need to update it either.

Yet they still do.

Possibly they had user agreements that were so badly written they'd have been a problem even if they weren't actually collecting a lot of data.

Re: Things to know about the GDPR, Mozilla and Firefox

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Post by jhall1468 »

krageon wrote: post #12
jhall1468 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And a ton of non-EU companies don't, but are doing so for future purposes. Despite territorial scope, a company without any form of business in the EU, they can't entorce this against non-EU businesses.

You are wrong. This is a misconception that has thankfully died down a bit over the past week or so, but apparently it is still a bit alive. There are accords in place between (for example) the US and the EU, which allows the EU to hand out fines overseas. The reverse is also true (the US can and does litigate in the EU).

Show me case law where an EU government fined a US company and how they enforced payment of that fine.

Re: Things to know about the GDPR, Mozilla and Firefox

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Post by eatbitseveryday »

jhall1468 wrote: post #18
krageon wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are wrong. This is a misconception that has thankfully died down a bit over the past week or so, but apparently it is still a bit alive. There are accords in place between (for example) the US and the EU, which allows the EU to hand out fines overseas. The reverse is also true (the US can and does litigate in the EU).

Show me case law where an EU government fined a US company and how they enforced payment of that fine.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Corp_v_Commission
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