Google and Facebook accused of breaking GDPR laws

Post by hshehehjdjdjd » Fri, May 25, 2018, 1:37 PM UTC

ckastner wrote: post #207

MarkMc wrote: post #170

I think Facebook's lawyers have determined that they can use the 'legitimate interest' basis for showing targeted ads to their users [0]. This basis does not require consent from users except as part of the take-it-or-leave-it initial terms of service. Here are the parts of the 'legitimate interest' basis which are most useful to Facebook: The GDPR does not define what factors to take into account when deciding if yo…

"Legitimate interest" works for regular data (Article 8). You cannot claim "legitimate interest" for sensitive data (Article 9), such as political and religious views, or sexual orientation.

Post by tomrod » Fri, May 25, 2018, 1:37 PM UTC

pjc50 wrote: post #173

tomrod wrote: post #20

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The law explicitly said "within hours of taking effect, these specific companies are to be sued due to not preparing sufficiently for GDPR"?

The law is explicitly aimed at direct marketing. It's mentioned in the text: (article 21) "Where personal data are processed for direct marketing purposes, the data subject shall have the right to object at any time to processing of personal data concerning him or her for such marketing, which includes profiling to the extent that it is related to such direct marketing. 3. Where the data subject objects to processing…

Post by jhall1468 » Fri, May 25, 2018, 1:38 PM UTC

xxs wrote: post #124

dmortin wrote: post #95

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What if they say it's $20 a month? And it's just facebook. Google also asks for $20, Reddit too, etc. It won't be cheap.

So you are stipulating an account worth is 240USD a year at facebook? Instead of 20, why won't you say 100, make it round. Seriously though, behemoths do fall and if facebook ceases to exist there will be no harm but good in my book.

Post by chatmasta » Fri, May 25, 2018, 1:41 PM UTC

zerostar07 wrote: post #198

chatmasta wrote: post #37

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On the positive side, it could also reduce product lock-in by increasing data portability. For example if I'm creating a social network startup, and users can export their data from Facebook in a parseable format, then it's trivial for me to offer an "import your data from Facebook" feature. The interesting question then becomes, could Facebook do anything about that? In the past they would be able to sue the startup…

Facebook has been offering their data for free for a very long time. in fact that's what they re accused of. They also have export tools since long ago, like twitter IIRC. I think their terms specifically say that your data belongs to you.

Post by merinowool » Fri, May 25, 2018, 1:47 PM UTC

lovich wrote: post #174

MarkMc wrote: post #170

I think Facebook's lawyers have determined that they can use the 'legitimate interest' basis for showing targeted ads to their users [0]. This basis does not require consent from users except as part of the take-it-or-leave-it initial terms of service. Here are the parts of the 'legitimate interest' basis which are most useful to Facebook: The GDPR does not define what factors to take into account when deciding if yo…

If companies successfully argue that maximising revenue is a legitimate interest and thus, don't need users consent, then the GPDR will worth less the paper it was written on. I would be extremely surprised if the EU goes through all this tome, effort, and money just to let corporations continue with business as usual