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Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ‘business conflicts’

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Re: Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ‘business conflicts’

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Wow, when trying to access this from the EU, I'm blocked by this huge pop-up telling me to either accept their tracking or fuck off. The cookie policy makes no mention on how to access the site without clicking "I accept", it just directs you to optout.aboutads.info. https://i.imgur.com/dK73MUi.png Is this really GDPR compliant?

I don't know, this isn't new. Literally every website in the EU has been asking for your permission to store cookies for years.

ePrivacy directive != GDPR. Even if it is ok under the former it may not be under the latter. And considering that they just updated their privacy policy they seem to be trying to conform to the latter.

Re: Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ‘business conflicts’

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Wow, when trying to access this from the EU, I'm blocked by this huge pop-up telling me to either accept their tracking or fuck off. The cookie policy makes no mention on how to access the site without clicking "I accept", it just directs you to optout.aboutads.info. https://i.imgur.com/dK73MUi.png Is this really GDPR compliant?

Start by disabling javascript, then only whitelisting websites when necessary. Also consider whether certain content is even worth vieweing when confronted with an "enable JS" banner. Your web experience is now 1000% better.

Re: Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ‘business conflicts’

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They've just made a huge mistake. Upset the hardcore gamers market to stop essentially a remote desktop app?

I doubt there is much overlap between the hardcore gamer market and Apple anyway.

On the contrary. If you care about the intersection of gaming and mobile, you are almost certainly using an iOS device.

Re: Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ‘business conflicts’

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I have a hard time with this explanation, as the Steam Store is already available through the iOS Steam app which is available on the Apple app store.

You can't buy games using the Steam Store app.

The Steam app? You sure as heck can buy games through it.

Re: Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ‘business conflicts’

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Yes, but it allows access to the store - directly contradicting rafadc's theory.

The difference is in the steam store app doesn't actually enable you to play the games on the phone itself, while the steam link app will let you do exactly that.

> so TeamViewer, Remote Desktop etc. are all banned

Re: Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ‘business conflicts’

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Wow, when trying to access this from the EU, I'm blocked by this huge pop-up telling me to either accept their tracking or fuck off. The cookie policy makes no mention on how to access the site without clicking "I accept", it just directs you to optout.aboutads.info. https://i.imgur.com/dK73MUi.png Is this really GDPR compliant?

No. Basically the GDPR is structured around a whole bunch of reasons why you might _need_ to store and process data about people ("Subjects"), for which you have implicit permission because it's necessary to something you're doing for the Subject. You need to make sure Subjects can find out what you needed, and why, and you can't change your mind later.

These purposes do not need Consent. You don't need to Consent to a retailer knowing your credit card number when you use the card to buy something. You don't need to Consent to Amazon knowing your delivery address when you buy stuff.

Consent comes in when you and the Subject both want to enable processing that isn't necessary. For example, if I buy a book from Amazon, it makes sense that I'd get a confirmatory email saying I ordered the book, and they're agreeing to sell it to me, and another one saying the book has been shipped and will be with me in 2-4 days. Those feel pretty necessary. But why would I get email about how great Amazon's new Fire tablet is? Well, Amazon could try asking me for Consent to send that sort of crap to me.

The GDPR is clear that you can't insist on implied Consent, you can't have "By visiting this web page I consent" or "To stop receiving our marketing, just unselect the default-selected boxes in the marketing permissions sub-section of your user profile, this may take up to 400 years to take effect" or similar nonsense. It needs to be a clear informed choice to give you this extra permission.

Some of the specifics will get litigated. I'm sure somebody will try to claim it's "necessary" to their business to track people and sell everything they possibly can, and I expect European courts to decide that's laughable nonsense.

Re: Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ‘business conflicts’

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Wow, when trying to access this from the EU, I'm blocked by this huge pop-up telling me to either accept their tracking or fuck off. The cookie policy makes no mention on how to access the site without clicking "I accept", it just directs you to optout.aboutads.info. https://i.imgur.com/dK73MUi.png Is this really GDPR compliant?

It’s one if the worst I have seen. There is no way not to accept this. I can’t see how this is permitted.

and you get a geo-localizing cookie installed even before clicking 'accept' - and that's with mublock already filtering out 7 requests

Re: Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ‘business conflicts’

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a hard time with this explanation, as the Steam Store is already available through the iOS Steam app which is available on the Apple app store.

You can't buy games using the Steam Store app.

You can buy games with the existing Steam app. I do it all the time during the sales.
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