Apple Wins $539M from Samsung in Damages Retrial

Post by Marazan » Fri, May 25, 2018, 7:09 AM UTC

sjwright wrote: post #50

tathougies wrote: post #40

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What is special about Apple's grid of icons? Icon sizes are -- due to convention -- almost always some power of two, or other standard size. The number of icons you can fit on a rectangular screen is going to be pretty similar because of the size of the appendage that will be interacting with it (a human thumb).

If this was simply about rounded corners or a grid of icons, they would have been laughed out of the court. Trade dress not about any single design choice but the combination of dozens of design choices which, when combined together, become an aesthetic trademark. And importantly, Apple spent millions of dollars on marketing to promote the fact that the iPhone looks a certain way and operates in a certain way. The is…

Post by pjmlp » Fri, May 25, 2018, 7:18 AM UTC

bilbo0s wrote: post #49

threeseed wrote: post #38

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I commercially developed both Windows Mobile and Palm apps. None had exactly the same design nor look & feel as the iPhone. Which phone are you referring to ?

I think maybe he is talking about the general IDEA, not necessarily the look and feel. You're right in asserting that there really was nothing like iPhone before iPhone, but the IDEA was there from way back with HP Jornadas and the older BREW phones. (I do concede that the UI of all of those devices was, in PRACTICE, much different than the iPhone UI. That much is undeniable when you look at old pictures of them. Bac…

Post by spyder » Fri, May 25, 2018, 7:39 AM UTC

kumarm wrote: post #30

mi100hael wrote: post #3

To everyone saying "these are basic phone designs," try and remember reactions to the original iPhone release keynote. The design was originally reasonably polarizing/radical. Half the reason these design elements are now so widespread is because everyone immediately copied Apple.

As someone who developed for Mobile Phones pre iPhone era, I can say they are people who never worked on software for Mobile before iPhone :). There were number of Phone that existed with several of those styles. How many people know Verizon Had a decent app store (Apps developed with Brew) in US before iPhone? This included similar testing that you see for AppStore TODAY.

Post by avar » Fri, May 25, 2018, 7:56 AM UTC

tooltalk wrote: post #94

There is one important aspect of this re-trial many of you are missing. The case was already decided years ago against Samsung -- there is nothing more to debate on that end, however absurd the decision. Now the new jury decided that those frivolous infringements amount to most of Samsung's entire profit. In another word, Apple's hometown jury decided that Apple's patents rounded corners drove market demand for Samsu…

    > Apple's hometown jury decided that Apple's
    > patents rounded corners drove market demand
    > for Samsung's infringed device almost
    > single-handedly - not their brilliants
    > displays, battery, or even wireless radio
    > functionality.

Post by simonh » Fri, May 25, 2018, 8:06 AM UTC

fjsolwmv wrote: post #63

GeekyBear wrote: post #27

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One of the Android engineers (back when Android was going to be a Blackberry knockoff) made a similar comment about his reaction to the iPhone unveiling. >“As a consumer I was blown away. I wanted one immediately. But as a Google engineer, I thought ‘We’re going to have to start over.’” What we had suddenly looked just so . . . nineties,” DeSalvo said. “It’s just one of those things that are obvious when you see it."…

That's because Apple had a touchscreen, and Google had a keyboard at the time.