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Re: Letting neural networks be weird

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> Sometimes I think the surest sign that we’re not living in a computer simulation is that if we were, some microbe would have learned to exploit its flaws.

What makes the author so sure that it hasn't? We can only take the workings of the universe for what they are. We have no context with which to determine what is a flaw and what is just physics. One could say that quantum tunneling looks a hell of a lot like a common collision detection bug, but that could just be because how reality actually works is unintuitive to minds evolved for a more applicable set of rules. We'd never know the difference. In fact, it probably isn't meaningful to say there even is a difference.

Re: Letting neural networks be weird

#12
These anecdotes remind me of stories where someone asks a genie for a wish, and the genie technically grants it but in a way that is not what the wisher intended. For example, (cribbed from another thread), "I want to be rich". So the genie renames you to Richard. Ironically a very religious buddy of mine claimed that I as a software engineer am in part responsible for releasing a "Jinn", which could have unintended consequences for humanity.

Re: Letting neural networks be weird

#13
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s funny to think of JIRA as Turing complete because when using JIRA nobody can complete any programs.

Well, everything halts then, so that just solved the Halting Problem.

But you need to prove that it halted - to you manager obviously - that's the impossible and stressful part.

Re: Letting neural networks be weird

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These anecdotes remind me of stories where someone asks a genie for a wish, and the genie technically grants it but in a way that is not what the wisher intended. For example, (cribbed from another thread), "I want to be rich". So the genie renames you to Richard. Ironically a very religious buddy of mine claimed that I as a software engineer am in part responsible for releasing a "Jinn", which could have unintended…

Directly relevant: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/4ARaTpNX62uaL86j6/the-hidden...

Re: Letting neural networks be weird

#16

These anecdotes remind me of stories where someone asks a genie for a wish, and the genie technically grants it but in a way that is not what the wisher intended. For example, (cribbed from another thread), "I want to be rich". So the genie renames you to Richard. Ironically a very religious buddy of mine claimed that I as a software engineer am in part responsible for releasing a "Jinn", which could have unintended…

Computers are the genies and golems of the fairytales. Stories that demonstrate the folly of confusing what you ask with what you mean are as old as humanity itself, but the stories we now tell are not fictional anymore: we went and built those golems and genies and now share the planet with billions of them!

Re: Letting neural networks be weird

#19
Those labeling nets keeps resurfacing in the news. They're more of a hack than a proper implementation. It uses a focus-based algorithm to detect prominent features and just glues them with NLP without using any context. If it detects a scissor and a paper it might say "Man uses scissors to cut painting" despite no man or painting being present. That's because there's a high statistical correlation between the two in it's dataset. That's it.

Re: Letting neural networks be weird

#20

> Sometimes I think the surest sign that we’re not living in a computer simulation is that if we were, some microbe would have learned to exploit its flaws. What makes the author so sure that it hasn't? We can only take the workings of the universe for what they are. We have no context with which to determine what is a flaw and what is just physics. One could say that quantum tunneling looks a hell of a lot like a co…

Also: if the effects of the bug were obvious, the creator would have fixed it.
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