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Re: Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app

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Post by mykmallett »

brettz wrote: post #91
programbreeding wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>what possible reason would it have to identify individual URLs a particular identity visited? Money. Marketing. Targeted advertising. Etc, etc, etc. Pornhub (and others) are completely free and use more bandwidth than I can wrap my head around. How do you think they pay for that stuff?

The ID verification is done by trusted third parties. There will be no link to a name and any browsing activity on Pornhub.

The age verification is done by pornhubs own company, to think they won't use this information seems incredibly naive.

Re: Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app

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Post by rblion »

globuous wrote: post #29

My parents live in Dubai and had a VPN for VoIPing, but recently the VPN stopped working. I'm terrible at networking and don't really know how all of this works, but is it possible for ISPs to block particular VPNs ?

Yup. Send them over to Pornhub.com right now and sign them up. They will love you for this notion of goodwill.

Re: Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app

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Post by patio11 »

tptacek wrote: post #95
jeena wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would be interested of the reason because we've been fighting this successfully for a number of years with our clients IT departments (while we were smaller). They hired us to make the developement process better and one of the things we always found problematic was that when the software developers didn't have normal internet access (but instead tunneled everything through some bottleneck http proxy) they both los…

There are IT shops with large dev teams that don't put proxies between their users and the Internet, but in every one of them that I'm aware of, developer laptops are subject to intrusive continuous monitoring. And, even at firms where there are no proxies, VPNs are problematic. The reason is that large firms are legally obligated to make sure that insiders aren't exfiltrating protected or confidential information.

The reason is that large firms are legally obligated to make sure that insiders aren't exfiltrating protected or confidential information.

If it makes people feel better about this, the same countermeasures also help with the case "Adversary pops any laptop in the company via e.g. phishing or malware and then pivots to All The Things." i.e. you don't need to posit non-trust of employees to want to implement continuous monitoring of work equipment.

Re: Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app

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Post by Immortalin »

monkeynotes wrote: post #53
stuaxo wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A scheme, where other porn companies can pay them - and if they can't afford it, go out of business.

I don't really understand how a country can ask a website to comply with its laws if the content is not hosted in that country. I guess it could be asked to comply under threat of being blocked in response to non-compliance. It's such a weird area.

GDPR cough

Re: Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app

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Post by qu4z-2 »

ComodoHacker wrote: post #78
KenanSulayman wrote: post #72

Interestingly, the VPN clients connect to https://wlvpn.com and the whole service seems to actually be run by WLVPN, a white label VPN service, and not actually MindGeek (the company running PornHub).

So their VP must be lying: >“It’s also developed by us, the leading adult entertainment platform in the world".

Based on my experience, that means they "developed the solution" out of entirely off-the-shelf existing software/infrastructure.

Re: Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app

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Post by [deleted] »

wffurr wrote: post #74
merinowool wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Such site should be illegal. I find it extraordinary that government lets private company record such sensitive information.

Now tell me how you feel about US credit rating agencies, which were started by former FBI agents after the FBI was restricted from keeping dossiers without cause.

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Re: Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app

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Post by TheCoelacanth »

LinuxBender wrote: post #88
nailer wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/porn-age-verificati... > AgeID, has been developed by MindGeek, a company that also owns several pornographic websites including Pornhub, RedTube and YouPorn. > AgeID currently uses official documents such as driver's licences and passports to verify a person's age - but submitting a mobile number tied to a contract phone could be another option. > The tool is due to be implem…

It would be so much less overhead to require adult sites and user content driven sites to simply add the RTA adult header and put the responsibility on parents to use parental control software. It looks like this: rating RTA-5042-1996-1400-1577-RTA and it can be sent via http headers, or embeded in web pages. Requiring people to register with PII is just asking for trouble.

Yeah, but that doesn't allow them to slip in authoritarianism via the backdoor.

Re: Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app

#108

Post by fulafel »

tptacek wrote: post #95
jeena wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would be interested of the reason because we've been fighting this successfully for a number of years with our clients IT departments (while we were smaller). They hired us to make the developement process better and one of the things we always found problematic was that when the software developers didn't have normal internet access (but instead tunneled everything through some bottleneck http proxy) they both los…

There are IT shops with large dev teams that don't put proxies between their users and the Internet, but in every one of them that I'm aware of, developer laptops are subject to intrusive continuous monitoring. And, even at firms where there are no proxies, VPNs are problematic. The reason is that large firms are legally obligated to make sure that insiders aren't exfiltrating protected or confidential information.

In some jurisdictions the monitoring is forbidden due to privacy or labour protection laws.

Re: Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app

#109

Post by fulafel »

dguido wrote: post #18

It might be a good time to mention that Algo VPN now supports Ubuntu 18.04, many new cloud providers, and soon (days) will have Wireguard support. https://github.com/trailofbits/algo

Fine for browsing pornhub, but it blocks traffic between users, so it's unsuitable for many general net use cases.

Re: Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app

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Post by nickpsecurity »

antihero wrote: post #28
dguido wrote: post #18

It might be a good time to mention that Algo VPN now supports Ubuntu 18.04, many new cloud providers, and soon (days) will have Wireguard support. https://github.com/trailofbits/algo

What advantages does this have over something like OpenVPN Road Warrior installer? https://github.com/Nyr/openvpn-install

We covered weaknesses of OpenVPN and strengths of Wireguard in this sub-thread:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17092338

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