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Thanks to facial recognition, a third person is arrested following a pop concert

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Re: Thanks to facial recognition, a third person is arrested following a pop concert

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Post by MarkMMullin »

dghughes wrote: post #63
josefresco wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Egad Batman! Thanks for the background - how would one change their head geometry? Would a prosthetic nose, or subdermal implants serve this purpose?

Or maybe infrared reflecting material similar to sun block. The local cancer society came to my workplace to promote skin health and one of the items was a small camera system. You put sun block on one part of your face, stuck your head in a box and a camera and screen showed the sunblock as black paint. If an IR type of material could be made you could paint geometric dazzle type paint on your face to obscure its ge…

Slick idea - I'd be concerned tho that, given the semi normal rough distribution of heat on the face (there's a reason head wounds bleed so much) that this attempt to game the system would be easily detected as gaming the system. The good news is any idiots building a product by bolting together parts from OpenCV that they barely understand would probably fall for it. Me, I'd be embarrassed if I didn't tag you as anomalous. HOWEVER - if you were really really good and accurate with the application of the blocker (cause if its zinc oxide it does work in both directions) and you backed it up with makeup for the visible light side of the house, you probably could fool most by establishing a completely different facial geometry. Anyway, certainly a concept worth ruminating on. :-) I think it would beat me at my imaginary best if done well. Have to find a counter, I guess.. Like gait :-)

Re: Thanks to facial recognition, a third person is arrested following a pop concert

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Post by MarkMMullin »

8_hours_ago wrote: post #51
MarkMMullin wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the technology just stayed at facial recognition, maybe - I work on stereoscopic vision, so you'd have to change your head geometry too for my cameras if you're in parallax range..... and we're getting to the point of being able to do realtime skeletal pose analysis -- https://storage.googleapis.com/tfjs-models/demos/posenet/cam... So, it's an arms race :-/

> skeletal pose analysis ... it's an arms race I see what you did there :)

Nice catch - I was completely oblivious to it till you pointed it out, and it was an accident, I swear! Lazarus Long says punsters and practical jokers get keelhauled or staked out on anthills :-( That's no fun

Re: Thanks to facial recognition, a third person is arrested following a pop concert

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Post by toofy »

MarkMMullin wrote: post #71
dghughes wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or maybe infrared reflecting material similar to sun block. The local cancer society came to my workplace to promote skin health and one of the items was a small camera system. You put sun block on one part of your face, stuck your head in a box and a camera and screen showed the sunblock as black paint. If an IR type of material could be made you could paint geometric dazzle type paint on your face to obscure its ge…

Slick idea - I'd be concerned tho that, given the semi normal rough distribution of heat on the face (there's a reason head wounds bleed so much) that this attempt to game the system would be easily detected as gaming the system. The good news is any idiots building a product by bolting together parts from OpenCV that they barely understand would probably fall for it. Me, I'd be embarrassed if I didn't tag you as ano…

> Me, I'd be embarrassed if I didn't tag you as anomalous

So it sounds like these types of strategies need to be turned into fashion trends in order to make the anomalies not so anomalous?

Re: Thanks to facial recognition, a third person is arrested following a pop concert

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Post by carterehsmith »

mkoryak wrote: post #21
forgot-my-pw wrote: post #14

> The man, who authorities identified only by his surname, Yu, is accused of having stolen around $17,000 worth of potatoes in 2015. That's a lot of potatoes to move!

maybe a dozen of really expensive potatoes?

Well, that made me search for "most expensive potatoes" and sure enough, some exotic potatoes go for $300/pound. til. http://www.luxuo.com/lifestyle/gastronomy/potato-la-bonnotte...

Re: Thanks to facial recognition, a third person is arrested following a pop concert

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Post by manicdee »

Abrecht wrote: post #11

> "Cameras are set in China at 2.8 meters above the ground. That means they won't be able to capture human faces. That's a rule. I'm confused.

Catch faces?

Hit heads perhaps?

As in, “Ouch! I caught that camera with my face.”

Re: Thanks to facial recognition, a third person is arrested following a pop concert

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Post by nichtich »

forgot-my-pw wrote: post #14

> The man, who authorities identified only by his surname, Yu, is accused of having stolen around $17,000 worth of potatoes in 2015. That's a lot of potatoes to move!

from Chinese news report: 于某今年35岁，山东人，三年前采购了一批价值11万元的土豆后就消失了，逃到嘉兴西塘开了家民宿，利用弟弟的身份东躲西藏，警方接到报警后，将其列为网上追逃对象。

So it's more like a fraud. He bought some potatoes and then disappeared without paying.

Re: Thanks to facial recognition, a third person is arrested following a pop concert

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Post by gaius »

petermcneeley wrote: post #6

Many forms of privacy will disappear but these are all modern creations anyway. Think of how a small tribe use to behave. Was there anything that was private in a small community? Would a criminal also too be instantly spotted in the local lodge as the bard plays his tunes?

Think of how a small tribe use to behave. Was there anything that was private in a small community

But you could walk over the hill to the next village and start again.

Re: Thanks to facial recognition, a third person is arrested following a pop concert

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Post by dTal »

mkoryak wrote: post #21
forgot-my-pw wrote: post #14

> The man, who authorities identified only by his surname, Yu, is accused of having stolen around $17,000 worth of potatoes in 2015. That's a lot of potatoes to move!

maybe a dozen of really expensive potatoes?

Or a single Faberge potato...

(edit: Holy shit, that exists...)

Re: Thanks to facial recognition, a third person is arrested following a pop concert

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Post by griffoa »

dTal wrote: post #78
mkoryak wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

maybe a dozen of really expensive potatoes?

Or a single Faberge potato... (edit: Holy shit, that exists...)

Yeah, I hear those potatoes are the shit over in Palo Alto along with pink BMW's for 16th birthdays.

Re: Thanks to facial recognition, a third person is arrested following a pop concert

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Post by jstarfish »

josefresco wrote: post #2

Masks and temporary/permanent face altering techniques will explode as this technology takes hold. I think about it like ad-blocking, something that may work itself into the mainstream despite it's questionable ethics.

I'd like to think so, but my bank already prohibits wearing sunglasses or hats indoors. They have a guard that will turn you away and everything.

In the future, simply entering a store with CCTV is an opt-in for FR analytics and all that entails.

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