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Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app

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Re: Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app

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Post by brettz »

programbreeding wrote: post #81
stephenr wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> do you really want to risk an inevitable leak where your co-workers will potentially look up info about your porn habits tied to your real name Why would it have your 'habits' tied to it? It's meant to ensure you're over 18 or whatever age - what possible reason would it have to identify individual URLs a particular identity visited?

>what possible reason would it have to identify individual URLs a particular identity visited? Money. Marketing. Targeted advertising. Etc, etc, etc. Pornhub (and others) are completely free and use more bandwidth than I can wrap my head around. How do you think they pay for that stuff?

The ID verification is done by trusted third parties. There will be no link to a name and any browsing activity on Pornhub.

Re: Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app

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Post by [deleted] »

chimeracoder wrote: post #61
fredley wrote: post #6

> “VPNhub is free and unlimited, anonymous and easy to use, [...] a good number of [people] use [VPNs] to circumvent and bypass restrictions to access adult content. It only makes sense that they use Pornhub’s.” So wait, as a UK citizen I can use Pornhub's VPN to circumvent the UK Government's "Porn Filter", a system that's run by..... Pornhub.

> a system that's run by..... Pornhub. The system was mandated by UK law. Mindgeek isn't the only provider that makes an age verification service, though they are the largest (since they own most of the largest pornographic brands on the web). David Cameron was the one who pushed for the law that put all of this into effect; Pornhub isn't remotely responsible. They're just creating a verification service that they're…

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Re: Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app

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Post by enieslobby »

godzillabrennus wrote: post #71
fencepost wrote: post #45

The pricing on this seems out of line with other VPN providers unless I'm missing something. $12-14/month = $144/year give or take. Even if they do a "2 months free if you pay annually" it's still $120/year while something like privateinternetaccess is $7/mo, $40/year or $70/2 years. Unfortunately the vpnhub site appears to have been hammered into the ground as of time of posting.

Wow that’s a lot to pay for this kind of thing. Maybe I’m the minority on here but I watch Tech shows on YouTube. Linus Sebastian is quite popular on there. He has been recommending https://www.privateinternetaccess.com and their prices are lower.

Does he still recommend it? PIA recently hired former Mt. Gox CEO Mark Karpeles as it's CTO which received some backlash on the forums: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/921994-pia-hires-man-wh...

Re: Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app

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Post by kelnos »

DINKDINK wrote: post #90
geofft wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a pretty good analogy, because nobody thinks that bars employing bouncers to check ID is some sort of conspiracy or conflict-of-interest.

Strictly speaking, it is classified as a conflict of interest.

It is, but in practice it doesn't matter too much. In most (all?) jurisdictions in the US, bars can be fined pretty heavily or even lose their liquor license if they're caught serving people illegally, or if they even have people on the premises without their ID with them. Any extra revenue they might generate from letting in underage people isn't worth the risk of the consequences if caught.

Re: Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app

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Post by tptacek »

jeena wrote: post #85
tptacek wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is basically no IT shop at a large company that operates this way, and there's a reason for that.

I would be interested of the reason because we've been fighting this successfully for a number of years with our clients IT departments (while we were smaller). They hired us to make the developement process better and one of the things we always found problematic was that when the software developers didn't have normal internet access (but instead tunneled everything through some bottleneck http proxy) they both los…

There are IT shops with large dev teams that don't put proxies between their users and the Internet, but in every one of them that I'm aware of, developer laptops are subject to intrusive continuous monitoring. And, even at firms where there are no proxies, VPNs are problematic.

The reason is that large firms are legally obligated to make sure that insiders aren't exfiltrating protected or confidential information.

Re: Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app

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Post by geofft »

DINKDINK wrote: post #90
geofft wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a pretty good analogy, because nobody thinks that bars employing bouncers to check ID is some sort of conspiracy or conflict-of-interest.

Strictly speaking, it is classified as a conflict of interest.

It's a conflict of interest in that it's in the bars' (financial) interest to let people through.

It's not in the bars' financial interest to create a minimum drinking age via regulatory capture just so they can hire bouncers, or accept bribes or sell fake IDs or whatever. That's analogous to the insinuation I picked up upthread (if I read that comment correctly). Expecting industries to self-regulate until they show themselves incapable of doing so is pretty standard.

Re: Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app

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Post by mark_edward »

kelnos wrote: post #94
DINKDINK wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Strictly speaking, it is classified as a conflict of interest.

It is, but in practice it doesn't matter too much. In most (all?) jurisdictions in the US, bars can be fined pretty heavily or even lose their liquor license if they're caught serving people illegally, or if they even have people on the premises without their ID with them. Any extra revenue they might generate from letting in underage people isn't worth the risk of the consequences if caught.

Lol. You've never been to a college town I take it?

It's a gigantic conflict of interest that plays out exactly how you'd expect. I've never been carded going to a bar near my former university.

Re: Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app

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Post by abandonliberty »

godzillabrennus wrote: post #71
fencepost wrote: post #45

The pricing on this seems out of line with other VPN providers unless I'm missing something. $12-14/month = $144/year give or take. Even if they do a "2 months free if you pay annually" it's still $120/year while something like privateinternetaccess is $7/mo, $40/year or $70/2 years. Unfortunately the vpnhub site appears to have been hammered into the ground as of time of posting.

Wow that’s a lot to pay for this kind of thing. Maybe I’m the minority on here but I watch Tech shows on YouTube. Linus Sebastian is quite popular on there. He has been recommending https://www.privateinternetaccess.com and their prices are lower.

Using PIA for years, unfortunately its IPs are well known so everything knows you're on a VPN and you get tons of captcha.

Re: Pornhub launches VPNhub, its own virtual private network app

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Post by forapurpose »

cgh wrote: post #66
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #35

Assuming that people were using a VPN to browse pornography, doesn't the ownership of this VPN by a Porn hosting company kind of eliminate the anonymity benefits of using it? I'm also confused by why the gentleman in the ad was going to browse PornHub in a crowded coffee shop while waiting on his coffee.

I imagine this service would appeal to people who want to remain anonymous to local law enforcement. Pornhub realises there is a huge untapped market in eg Islamic countries, for example. Regarding the coffee shop thing: I was walking past a place some time back and I saw a woman staring thoughtfully at her laptop. She was sitting with her back to the wall. Behind her was a glass-covered painting, allowing me to see…

> this service would appeal to people who want to remain anonymous to local law enforcement

It doesn't make you anonymous at all. It announces: "I'm using Pornhub".

> ge untapped market in eg Islamic countries

Do you have any evidence of that? What's an 'Islamic country'? Is every country that you've lumped together in this category the same in regard to this issue? Is Islam even one uniform religion?

> I guess it's not that uncommon.

That is not evidence of frequency except in that coffee shop at that moment. I have far more evidence: In all the time I've been in coffee shops, I've never observed it.

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