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Thanks to facial recognition, a third person is arrested following a pop concert

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Re: Thanks to facial recognition, a third person is arrested following a pop concert

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Masks and temporary/permanent face altering techniques will explode as this technology takes hold. I think about it like ad-blocking, something that may work itself into the mainstream despite it's questionable ethics.

If the technology just stayed at facial recognition, maybe - I work on stereoscopic vision, so you'd have to change your head geometry too for my cameras if you're in parallax range..... and we're getting to the point of being able to do realtime skeletal pose analysis -- https://storage.googleapis.com/tfjs-models/demos/posenet/cam... So, it's an arms race :-/

> skeletal pose analysis ... it's an arms race

I see what you did there :)

Re: Thanks to facial recognition, a third person is arrested following a pop concert

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And yet: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-44089161 -- did they maybe get lucky?

I tend to believe there's still issues with the technology and/or data in/data out issues (unless, for example, the Chinese have REALLY good photos of people to start with -- that's the excuse the British police gave in the above story for the 91 percent false positive rate).

Re: Thanks to facial recognition, a third person is arrested following a pop concert

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's already illegal in many states in the US. Possibly at the local level as well. Here's the relevant law for Virginia. https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title18.2/chapter9/secti... It's a class 6 felony, which in VA means you'll be looking at "a term of imprisonment of not less than one year nor more than five years, or in the discretion of the jury or the court trying the case without a jury, confinement in jai…

> However, the provisions of this section shall not apply to persons (i) wearing traditional holiday costumes; It doesn't say I can't wear traditional holiday costume outside of holiday, so it should be okay to wear Halloween scary costume all year long.

>However, the provisions of this section shall not apply to persons (i) wearing traditional holiday costumes;

Perhaps you ought to dress up as Santa Claus when you want to rob a bank, then

Re: Thanks to facial recognition, a third person is arrested following a pop concert

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> "Cameras are set in China at 2.8 meters above the ground. That means they won't be able to capture human faces. That's a rule. I'm confused.

I think they mean surveillance cameras run at an angle that makes automated facial recognition impossible.

That seems unlikely.

Re: Thanks to facial recognition, a third person is arrested following a pop concert

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or to take the idea further, can you wear a cross necklace and a halloween mask? Or a hijab and a welding mask? One item is signalling your religion, the other is covering your face. Neither item is covering your face in a way that signals your religion. I feel like any attempt at imposing anti-privacy laws while keeping some pretence of a free society ultimately descends into farce, because the two ideas are basical…

No, you misunderstand; the law doesn't say anything about covering your face, it just says "you can't display your religious affiliation in public." A hijab happens to cover your face, but it's illegal to wear in public only because it's a religious telltale, not because of its function. You can't wear the cross necklace, or have the bumper-sticker; they signal religion. And you can wear the halloween mask, or the we…

Hmm... living mostly in France I see at least one person wearing a muslim or hebrew head-thinggy on the street almost every day. Is the law actually unenforced? Or are these people clerics (Imams or Rabis) going to/from work and they are exempt from this? ...just curious, gonna ask around.

Re: Thanks to facial recognition, a third person is arrested following a pop concert

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10 years from now frontpage HN: "Thanks to cameras placed in every room of every Chinese house, 10,000 people have been saved from otherwise being abused, kidnapped, raped or trafficked this month alone!" Yay!

If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear!

If you have nothing to hide, you are literally worthless! (In a financial sense, not saying this as an offense.)

People should get it that in a full fledged information economy the only thing that will have value will be information that they only they have. So encrypt, don't share, obsfucate, and when applicable use legal protection like patents for anything you can...

Never know what might be of value. One of the few good ideas I've hear in the crypto space is owning and encripting your personal data so that only you can sell it to advertisers. Sounds retarded, but as more and more things will become worthless there might be some prophecy of a future to come...

Re: Thanks to facial recognition, a third person is arrested following a pop concert

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post #19

Masks and temporary/permanent face altering techniques will explode as this technology takes hold. I think about it like ad-blocking, something that may work itself into the mainstream despite it's questionable ethics.

Masks, face altering, stickers, etc. I like this research about "Adversarial Patches" - stickers that confuse image recognition systems. I imagine one may wear a display with ever changing images that are salient and confuse such systems. > Research Article: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1712.09665.pdf > Video for patches: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1sp4X57TL4

Ambitious widespread adoption of brand new badly flawed technology. China's plan with tech is looking more and more like the Great Leap Forward 2.0.

Re: Thanks to facial recognition, a third person is arrested following a pop concert

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Masks and temporary/permanent face altering techniques will explode as this technology takes hold. I think about it like ad-blocking, something that may work itself into the mainstream despite it's questionable ethics.

The sci-fi cyberpunk genre might have accidentally/accurately predicted this trend. The artwork makes heavy use of face/head mods and accessories.

Definitely not accidental, I seem to remember at least one of William Gibson's books mention people avoiding face recognition with masks.

Re: Thanks to facial recognition, a third person is arrested following a pop concert

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Direct access to the text only version: https://text.npr.org/s.php?sId=613692526 Thanks to GDPR, I can now acess a page with what I want to read way faster than before!

If only they gave a way to find the text-only page from the non-text-only link.

Right now the cookie consent form reeks of passive-agressive design.

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