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Thanks to facial recognition, a third person is arrested following a pop concert

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Re: Thanks to facial recognition, a third person is arrested following a pop concert

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> "Cameras are set in China at 2.8 meters above the ground. That means they won't be able to capture human faces. That's a rule. I'm confused.

I think they mean surveillance cameras run at an angle that makes automated facial recognition impossible.

Yes, but this is in an article about people being captured by facial recognition surveillance. It appears to contradict itself. Maybe it's a typo?

Re: Thanks to facial recognition, a third person is arrested following a pop concert

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Many forms of privacy will disappear but these are all modern creations anyway. Think of how a small tribe use to behave. Was there anything that was private in a small community? Would a criminal also too be instantly spotted in the local lodge as the bard plays his tunes?

The global village has already brought back the ancient tradition of witch hunts; looking forward to the blessings which will come along with being spied on by powerful panopticons instead of village gossips!

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm still a bit ignorant on all things GDPR, which part of it says they must provide a plaintext site? I'm wondering if I will start seeing more of these in the future.

I'm just guessing, but GDPR does require that if a person says "no" to tracking (or rather, if they do not explicitly opt-in), that the service cannot be degraded. So I'm wondering if NPR is just serving completely script-less, ad-less text to provide the same thing to this audience?

I wonder how regulators would look at this practise. It would depend on whether taking away formatting and any image / video content counts as degrading. For some people this is desirable, but for others it may not be.

My interpretation is that they would be free to give the text-only version to EU residents unilaterally, but not to make formatting tied to tracking consent, as tracking is not functionally necessary for formatting.

As an extreme example, I don't think Youtube could have "yes, track me and let me watch the video" and "no, read text transcript of video" as options and claim equivalency.

Re: Thanks to facial recognition, a third person is arrested following a pop concert

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post #25

Direct access to the text only version: https://text.npr.org/s.php?sId=613692526 Thanks to GDPR, I can now acess a page with what I want to read way faster than before!

No need to thank GDPR, text-only NPR.org has been a thing for a while. It's been in my bookmarks for at least six months (and likely existed before that).

Or I suppose you could thank GDPR for pointing you to it in the first place. :-)

Re: Thanks to facial recognition, a third person is arrested following a pop concert

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post #16

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> Masks and temporary/permanent face altering techniques will explode as this technology takes hold Along with a corresponding explosion in legislation to prevent you from covering your face in public. It already exists in France (popularly known as the 'Burqa Ban', but I think it covers other face coverings). I'm especially curious to see how this will go down in the UK, which is increasingly authoritarian while oft…

You're allowed to cover your face in France, just not in such a way that it signals religious affiliation. The point of the French law is to prevent anyone from being able to identify, through observation in a public place, what a stranger's religion is (under the theory that you can't commit hate crimes if you can't identify your outgroup; and that a generation that grew up not seeing any hate crimes committed—even…

So can you wear a cross necklace or a yamaka? Or use a Jesus fish bumper sticker?

Re: Thanks to facial recognition, a third person is arrested following a pop concert

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post #11

> "Cameras are set in China at 2.8 meters above the ground. That means they won't be able to capture human faces. That's a rule. I'm confused.

Must be a translation/proof-reading error. A camera 1m above people's heads would be perfect for capturing faces.

Re: Thanks to facial recognition, a third person is arrested following a pop concert

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Masks and temporary/permanent face altering techniques will explode as this technology takes hold Along with a corresponding explosion in legislation to prevent you from covering your face in public. It already exists in France (popularly known as the 'Burqa Ban', but I think it covers other face coverings). I'm especially curious to see how this will go down in the UK, which is increasingly authoritarian while oft…

You're allowed to cover your face in France, just not in such a way that it signals religious affiliation. The point of the French law is to prevent anyone from being able to identify, through observation in a public place, what a stranger's religion is (under the theory that you can't commit hate crimes if you can't identify your outgroup; and that a generation that grew up not seeing any hate crimes committed—even…

Thank you. I had wondered about the reasoning behind that law. Do you know where I light be able to read further on the topic?

Re: Thanks to facial recognition, a third person is arrested following a pop concert

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Many forms of privacy will disappear but these are all modern creations anyway. Think of how a small tribe use to behave. Was there anything that was private in a small community? Would a criminal also too be instantly spotted in the local lodge as the bard plays his tunes?

I don't think you can compare small tribes watching each other with the current situation where someone with access to surveillance systems can record all movements in a whole country and get them analyzed automatically. Surveillance used to be expensive and cost a lot of effort but increasingly it can be done more complete and cheaper. The world may look differently if previous dictators had had the surveillance systems of today or the near future in their hands.

Re: Thanks to facial recognition, a third person is arrested following a pop concert

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> The man, who authorities identified only by his surname, Yu, is accused of having stolen around $17,000 worth of potatoes in 2015. That's a lot of potatoes to move!

I thought the same thing and did some searching. Based on the street price of potatoes in China, it's in the neighborhood of 30k pounds. More if that number is wholesale value.

The other thing we can surmise which is strange about the crime: He had to have stolen a truck worth of potatoes. So he either used his own truck, or he stole a truck and then gave it back after having fenced the potatoes.

Re: Thanks to facial recognition, a third person is arrested following a pop concert

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post #35
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're allowed to cover your face in France, just not in such a way that it signals religious affiliation. The point of the French law is to prevent anyone from being able to identify, through observation in a public place, what a stranger's religion is (under the theory that you can't commit hate crimes if you can't identify your outgroup; and that a generation that grew up not seeing any hate crimes committed—even…

So can you wear a cross necklace or a yamaka? Or use a Jesus fish bumper sticker?

Or to take the idea further, can you wear a cross necklace and a halloween mask? Or a hijab and a welding mask?

One item is signalling your religion, the other is covering your face. Neither item is covering your face in a way that signals your religion.

I feel like any attempt at imposing anti-privacy laws while keeping some pretence of a free society ultimately descends into farce, because the two ideas are basically incompatible.

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