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I.R.S. Warns States Not to Circumvent State and Local Tax Cap

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Re: I.R.S. Warns States Not to Circumvent State and Local Tax Cap

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Not following your latter point: isn't the flat rate for the higher standard deduction progressive?

Not really. It’s subsidizing sparsely populated states that either don’t need to or don’t care to provide the state/local services that populated places need.

What does population have anything to do with it? It's based on income. The fact that more densely populated places have higher per capita service costs is the problem.

Re: I.R.S. Warns States Not to Circumvent State and Local Tax Cap

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"...The $10,000 cap was imposed as a way to offset some of the cost of other individual and business tax cuts. The Treasury Department and the I.R.S. are worried that the workarounds could further balloon the cost of the tax cuts, which are projected to add more than $1 trillion to the national debt over a decade." Describing this as likely to 'further balloon' the cost of tax cuts seems inaccurate and misleading - t…

No, from the perspective of the federal budget (c.f. Treasury and IRS, the entities "worried" here) it will absolutely decrease revenue and "further balloon the cost of the tax cuts". It's true that the loss would be to the states' tax revenue and not the taxpayers, but I don't see why that merits the kind of spin you're trying.

For one, those states were already net positive contributors to the Federal budget - they gave more revenue than they received in benefits. Personally I don't mind kicking in more tax revenue to the commons when it's something that benefits everyone, but to fund corporate tax cuts on companies which already give too little as a whole, as well as other states which lower their taxes to give even more to those companies is counterproductive for the nation as a whole.

Re: I.R.S. Warns States Not to Circumvent State and Local Tax Cap

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Not sure I follow. The wealthier have higher incomes and higher property taxes due to buying more expensive homes. The $10,000 cap hits them even harder.

If you live in New York, New Jersey, California, etc, a large percentage/majority of homeowners are impacted by the $10k cap. But you need to clear $24k in deductions (as a married couple) to even take that deduction. The average homeowner loses, as they can’t cross the threshold, and every marginal state/local tax dollar costs 15-25% more than it did before.

The 2017 standard deduction for married couples was $12,700 (compared to $24K in 2018). So the average homeowner also gets an additional $11,300 tax free. Granted so do non-homeowners.

I don't think the "average homeowner" would complain that they can't take as big of a homeowners deduction when the net result is they are exempting a larger portion of their income regardless.

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