Can everyone just stop repeating this, pretty please? That is the maximum penalty. You'd have to try really, really hard to get that kind of penalty. For minor transgressions, you're likely to get away with a reprimand.
Instapaper is temporarily shutting off access for European users due to GDPR
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm curious what an example of a "hard ban" might be?
Freezing account if it seems to be owned by EU citizen? GDPR applies to all EU citizens regardless of their location after all.
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#63Obviously, IANAL, but my company talked to a few over the past week. This move is, in my opinion, a bad read on the odds and European culture. First, culture. The goal (at least in France, but that's probably the same in other countries) is to get you in compliance, NOT to fine you. What this means is that before you get lawsuit and fines, someone will talk to you and work with you to see how you can get compliant. S…
Can you point to the section of the legislation that says this? It would probably go a long way to stopping folks from freaking out.
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#64I've shelved a bunch of side projects that I was excited to work on because I have no interest in dealing with any of this ambiguous law. Implementing it would most likely cause a large percentage of users to uninstall my app, because who wants to be greeted with a scary sounding dialog as their first experience in an app. I know many folks here are privacy oriented, but unless this tiny slice of the population is willing to fund my app, I have 0 interest in pandering to them vs the majority of users that would get scared away by it.
I know that there's an almost 0% chance of any repercussion for not being compliant in a tiny app that'll probably never get anywhere, but I'm just so sickened by this whole thing that I don't want to deal with any of it.
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
Freezing account if it seems to be owned by EU citizen? GDPR applies to all EU citizens regardless of their location after all.
GDPR applies if (1) the Controller or a Processor is “established” in the EU, or if (2) the Subject is in the EU. Citizenship doesn't matter, and geoblocking is the legally correct solution. As an example: U.S. tourists on a trip to Paris are protected by the GDPR, but a Polish expat in California is not. (See Art. 3 GDPR https://gdpr-info.eu/art-3-gdpr/ )
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
GDPR applies if (1) the Controller or a Processor is “established” in the EU, or if (2) the Subject is in the EU. Citizenship doesn't matter, and geoblocking is the legally correct solution. As an example: U.S. tourists on a trip to Paris are protected by the GDPR, but a Polish expat in California is not. (See Art. 3 GDPR https://gdpr-info.eu/art-3-gdpr/ )
Huh. This is interesting. People were talking it'd be the other way. That EU citizens would be guarded no matter where they're.
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#69I'm still struggling with the fact that the EU can compel me to add what will be a funnel shattering dialog to my onboarding. I've shelved a bunch of side projects that I was excited to work on because I have no interest in dealing with any of this ambiguous law. Implementing it would most likely cause a large percentage of users to uninstall my app, because who wants to be greeted with a scary sounding dialog as the…
If you can't keep our data safe, why should you be trusted with it?
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#70> But because the fines are so steep — violating GDPR will cost a company 4 percent of its global turnover or $20 million, whichever is larger — no one really wants to be caught non-compliant. Can everyone just stop repeating this, pretty please? That is the maximum penalty. You'd have to try really, really hard to get that kind of penalty. For minor transgressions, you're likely to get away with a reprimand.