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Re: Filmstro: Royalty-Free Music

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Post by danvayn »

ComodoHacker wrote: post #53
brudgers wrote: post #36

Looking around the site, I was not able to find clear license terms that related to copyright of the actual music tracks produced. I am not a lawyer, but to me it is critical that copyright (and not royalties) is clearly spelled out. The product lives in an uncanny valley between clear copyright interests in musical compositions and software generated derivative works modified by end user input. The only legal inform…

Also open air broadcasting isn't mentioned anywhere in plan descriptions.

Isn't it mentioned? If you're looking at the plans page just click until you get to "Choose a License" and it's listed as a feature ("Broadcast: TV, Radio & Online") under the premium licenses.

Re: Filmstro: Royalty-Free Music

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Post by djsumdog »

brudgers wrote: post #36

Looking around the site, I was not able to find clear license terms that related to copyright of the actual music tracks produced. I am not a lawyer, but to me it is critical that copyright (and not royalties) is clearly spelled out. The product lives in an uncanny valley between clear copyright interests in musical compositions and software generated derivative works modified by end user input. The only legal inform…

There is also nothing about licensing your own work. Can I create a Creative Commons AT-SA video using this as the backing track? What if I also release all the source to my video under the same CC license? Can someone else that that track and use it in his/her project with the CC-AT-SA license? What exactly is attribution at this point? The video using the track or do you need to credit Filmstro too?

I agree, the FAQ doesn't go into enough licensing detail.

I do like the concept, but I think I'll stick to ccMixter.

Re: Filmstro: Royalty-Free Music

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Post by djsumdog »

combatentropy wrote: post #58

So if I understand the license, I pay $10 a month for access to the music. If I cancel my subscription, I can keep using the music I already downloaded. For example, I would not have to erase it from a Youtube video I published. The video and its music can stay online forever. Is that right?

They mention that in the FAQ. You should keep the CUE sheet you used to generate it. I suspect it contains a licensing hash of some kind.

Re: Filmstro: Royalty-Free Music

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Post by djsumdog »

Animats wrote: post #60

Was this stuff machine-generated?

I'm guessing the sliders probably aren't sliders, but fall into ranges, and the peeps who write their music select different tracks to add/subtract for a given slider. They probably have some custom scripting languages around their music.

That's the way it seems to me as a user anyway, and the way I'd write it as a developer.

Re: Filmstro: Royalty-Free Music

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Post by djsumdog »

chrisbuc wrote: post #49
chrisbuc wrote: post #43

Sad music -> Turin What film have I watched with that in?!!!! It's going to be on my mind all night now... (aargh!)

Ok - found it... but now I'm confused. This music Gnossienne No. 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUAF3abGY2M is the same as the royalty free one called 'Turin'. So is it that the Turin version is a royalty free 'recording' (dynamically created), rather than one by a specific performer?

More than one person has mentioned how a track is almost just like something else. This is a little concerning. I would like to know if they just bought a license for the originals that allows them to create additive tracks or if they're ripping off shit and think they can get away with it.

Re: Filmstro: Royalty-Free Music

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Post by bitwize »

crazygringo wrote: post #20

Wow, this is one of the cleverest ideas I've seen in a long time. As far as I can tell, they've put together a wide-ranging set of fairly generic-sounding movie music (generic = good, so it doesn't call attention to itself)... but composed it in a way that the three parameters (momentum, depth, power) simply map to different volume levels of the underlying instrumental tracks -- but all perfectly tuned to always prod…

It really reminds me of the dynamic music used in Doom (2016).

In fact my favorite game, Rez, has a central conceit that is much closer to this. The heart of Rez is a 32-channel MIDI engine which continuously plays the game's background music; however, which channels are "active" is controlled by a bitmask that varies depending on which phase of the level you're in, allowing for a constantly shifting sohndscape. Then, additional music that arises from game events is mixed on top of that.

Re: Filmstro: Royalty-Free Music

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Post by bitwize »

methodin wrote: post #59
crazygringo wrote: post #20

Wow, this is one of the cleverest ideas I've seen in a long time. As far as I can tell, they've put together a wide-ranging set of fairly generic-sounding movie music (generic = good, so it doesn't call attention to itself)... but composed it in a way that the three parameters (momentum, depth, power) simply map to different volume levels of the underlying instrumental tracks -- but all perfectly tuned to always prod…

Music has a very important role in a movie - if you cut that out and replace it with generic music you'd be left with films with great acting that feel muted and listless. I'm not sure you quite understand how much work goes into a score and how much the director's, among others, views and desires affect that score.

On the other hand, movie trailers can benefit a lot from this. Of course for trailers you'd need a "creepy 5-year-old singing" slider and a "BWAAAAAAAAAA" slider...

Re: Filmstro: Royalty-Free Music

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Post by tefles »

chrisbuc wrote: post #49
chrisbuc wrote: post #43

Sad music -> Turin What film have I watched with that in?!!!! It's going to be on my mind all night now... (aargh!)

Ok - found it... but now I'm confused. This music Gnossienne No. 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUAF3abGY2M is the same as the royalty free one called 'Turin'. So is it that the Turin version is a royalty free 'recording' (dynamically created), rather than one by a specific performer?

This is an Erik Satie piece. He died in 1925, and so is out of copyright. We do have a few classic tracks in the library, but the majority are Filmstro Original tracks.

Re: Filmstro: Royalty-Free Music

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Post by chrisbuc »

tefles wrote: post #68
chrisbuc wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok - found it... but now I'm confused. This music Gnossienne No. 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUAF3abGY2M is the same as the royalty free one called 'Turin'. So is it that the Turin version is a royalty free 'recording' (dynamically created), rather than one by a specific performer?

This is an Erik Satie piece. He died in 1925, and so is out of copyright. We do have a few classic tracks in the library, but the majority are Filmstro Original tracks.

Fair enough (y)
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