It strikes me that people who are bothered by theft in the modern age just haven't got the whole digital revolution on quite a profound level. She lists the things that bothered her as "the BlackBerry with contact information for dear old friends, the wedding anniversary wallet that her husband bought her when she finished chemo, stuffed with about two years' worth of love letters from her toddlers, hopeful doctors'…
> The wallet itself I kind of get, but the rest is just data how insensitive. No wonder some people find we hacker/geek types so unlikeable.
My relentless pursuit of the guy who robbed me
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Re: My relentless pursuit of the guy who robbed me
#102It strikes me that people who are bothered by theft in the modern age just haven't got the whole digital revolution on quite a profound level. She lists the things that bothered her as "the BlackBerry with contact information for dear old friends, the wedding anniversary wallet that her husband bought her when she finished chemo, stuffed with about two years' worth of love letters from her toddlers, hopeful doctors'…
that person would probably prefer you just dump it all in the trash. Because finding fragments of your private life on people's yards and scattered on the street, in the shrubs and gutters, is a unique kind of psychological torment. Suddenly a routine violation starts to feel really personal.
She wasn't upset about the stuff being stolen, she was upset about the stuff lying all over the neighborhood for the world to see. She felt violated and exposed.
The proper digital analogy is having your "bits in the cloud" hacked and posted on a public website for all the world to see.
Re: My relentless pursuit of the guy who robbed me
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
Community service. Monitored parole. Work programs... The guy stole a backpack from an unlocked car with visual valuables. Police in my area once tried to make it a crime to have visible valuables inside of a vehicle, locked or not, because it encouraged crimes of opportunity by casual criminals. It essentially wasted their time . This guy wasn't going to pass the car by and then decide to murder an old lady.
Yes, he just stole other person's belongings. Sure, the lady was teasing him with her unlocked car. Just like the one before her I guess - he was already on probation.
Yet now the justice system is going to spend tens of thousands of dollars+ incarcerating him, and the net result will be that his options after being released will lean even more heavily towards criminality.
Re: My relentless pursuit of the guy who robbed me
#104It strikes me that people who are bothered by theft in the modern age just haven't got the whole digital revolution on quite a profound level. She lists the things that bothered her as "the BlackBerry with contact information for dear old friends, the wedding anniversary wallet that her husband bought her when she finished chemo, stuffed with about two years' worth of love letters from her toddlers, hopeful doctors'…
The best we can do is lock people up for longer periods of time -- at least for crimes with victims (robbery, murder, assault, rape, etc...).
Re: My relentless pursuit of the guy who robbed me
#105It strikes me that people who are bothered by theft in the modern age just haven't got the whole digital revolution on quite a profound level. She lists the things that bothered her as "the BlackBerry with contact information for dear old friends, the wedding anniversary wallet that her husband bought her when she finished chemo, stuffed with about two years' worth of love letters from her toddlers, hopeful doctors'…
You need to read the next rest of the sentence and the next: that person would probably prefer you just dump it all in the trash. Because finding fragments of your private life on people's yards and scattered on the street, in the shrubs and gutters, is a unique kind of psychological torment. Suddenly a routine violation starts to feel really personal. She wasn't upset about the stuff being stolen, she was upset abou…
So, you mean Facebook.
Re: My relentless pursuit of the guy who robbed me
#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unfortunately, that doesn't really counteract the new skills he will learn while in jail. :/
So we should just let him romp around, stealing what he feels like? I'm all for improving jails (and not filling them with people busted for drugs), but this guy sounds like he ought to be spending some time in a facility where he is not at liberty to steal people's things, however it's run. Like others have noted, he was already on probation for some other crime, which is likely what got him locked up, not simply st…
The current common sentence lengths don't seem that useful to me, though. Sentences like 6-36 months are just about the worst I can think of, keeping someone in jail just long enough to inculcate all the negative effects, while not actually keeping them off the streets that long. It creates this odd revolving-door mentality, where in some communities it's completely common to be in and out of prison, and everyone's got a bunch of criminals in their social circle. Now we could just lock all those same people up for 20+ years and not let them back out of prison to reoffend, but that seems like a problematic solution as well, given the current numbers (you'd have to be prepared to permanently lock up a large proportion of the population).
One start might be to start basing policy on empirical data. Can we find patterns in which kinds of policies have deterrent or anti-deterrent effects on which kinds of people? My impression is that laws and sentencing are not very strong based on empirical research currently. It does occasionally get brought up in debates, but the stuff written into the laws seems mostly pulled out of a hat.
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> The wallet itself I kind of get, but the rest is just data how insensitive. No wonder some people find we hacker/geek types so unlikeable.
I definitely read the opinion as more buddhist than geek.
Re: My relentless pursuit of the guy who robbed me
#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
So his friend is going to risk 20 years in prison just to get revenge? This guy has already been in prison; he got caught stealing and was sent back to finish his first sentence. Not everyone is the mafia don that you see on Law & Order. This guy probably has no connections and no money. Which means he has to do his dirty work himself. And after two years in prison, I doubt a direct ticket back is his first priority.
Statistics would argue with you. Most sources put the proportion of repeat violent crime offenders at around 60%.
Of course, the article doesn't elaborate on what his previous sentence was, but I wouldn't be terribly surprised if it was theft, fencing, scams or fraud etc. and not violence.
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How do they find out what you've used your email address for? Do they buy that info from the websites?
I don't know anything about Spokeo, but Rapleaf uses the APIs of various services, and when that isn't enough, they screen scrape.
Those APIs expose people's email addresses?
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I don't know anything about Spokeo, but Rapleaf uses the APIs of various services, and when that isn't enough, they screen scrape.
> Rapleaf uses the APIs of various services Those APIs expose people's email addresses?