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Apple Avoids Amazon’s Beauty Contest, Searches Secretly for New Campus

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post #11

Can someone copy and paste the whole article into a comment?

If you're on a desktop/laptop computer and have a FB account, use the "fullwsj" hack: Edit the URL to say "fullwsj.com" instead of "wsj.com", and click on the link from Facebook. If on a mobile device, you can do it, but have to copy the URL and then paste into a private browsing window (at least on Safari/iOS.)

Didn't know about that. Thanks.

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not just WSJ. It was in the news last week: https://www.wral.com/north-carolina-apple-negotiating-deal-o...

Wow: "We are a local media company based in Raleigh, North Carolina, USA. We have detected that you are in one of the member countries of the European Union, which is now subject to the General Data Protection Regulation. ... Until we are able to ensure our full compliance with the rigorous GDPR requirements, we are blocking access from EU countries to our websites , which include wral.com, wralsportsfan.com, highsch…

Nothing of value was lost.

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow: "We are a local media company based in Raleigh, North Carolina, USA. We have detected that you are in one of the member countries of the European Union, which is now subject to the General Data Protection Regulation. ... Until we are able to ensure our full compliance with the rigorous GDPR requirements, we are blocking access from EU countries to our websites , which include wral.com, wralsportsfan.com, highsch…

Reap what you sow, Europer. Seriously though, is GDPR compliance that difficult? What does a news site have to do to comply?

That's actually the worry. What are they doing with your data that they don't to be transparent about?

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not just WSJ. It was in the news last week: https://www.wral.com/north-carolina-apple-negotiating-deal-o...

Wow: "We are a local media company based in Raleigh, North Carolina, USA. We have detected that you are in one of the member countries of the European Union, which is now subject to the General Data Protection Regulation. ... Until we are able to ensure our full compliance with the rigorous GDPR requirements, we are blocking access from EU countries to our websites , which include wral.com, wralsportsfan.com, highsch…

On the one hand I think this is a great sign that the GDPR is being taken seriously. On the other, I see this as corporate speak for "We're not sure if ensuring compliance makes business sense for us and this notice may actually be permanent. You're from a region where anyone interested in our content is probably a long-tail outlier that won't make us much money, so ensuring access for you is not a priority."

I really hope that data privacy regulations don't have the unintended side-effect of significantly increasing the geographic balkanization of the web.

Re: Apple Avoids Amazon’s Beauty Contest, Searches Secretly for New Campus

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I'm not sure comparing a second headquarters and a tech support site is apt. I'm not sure how loud the search is matters.

WSJ is a joke. Look, I can twist words too: "While Amazon is clearer and open about employee counts and candidate locations for HQ2, Apple remains secret and opaque about any details even for small site". Abatements abound regardless, lets not treat the differences in culture between Amazon and Apple, which translate to their way of searching for places to do business, as if one is clearly superior. (I personally don't mind what Amazon is doing in the least)

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reap what you sow, Europer. Seriously though, is GDPR compliance that difficult? What does a news site have to do to comply?

That's actually the worry. What are they doing with your data that they don't to be transparent about?

They don't know and don't feel like being in compliance with it. Laws like GDPR and specific sales tax laws net these kinds of results all the time in local businesses who don't gain anything by complying.

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post #8

It's pretty clear it hasn't done Amazon's reputation any favours. And there's no reason to think government officials won't go above and beyond in offering incentives behind closed doors.

Why do you think that? I think Amazon will get what they want - mainly a city to capitulate to their demands. I’ve talked to people in Pittsburgh and Atlanta and the majority wanted Amazon. I don’t think most people realize outside of tech circles that Amazon will mostly bring people in rather than hiring locally and how much they have strained the infrastructure in Seattle.

Re: Apple Avoids Amazon’s Beauty Contest, Searches Secretly for New Campus

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow: "We are a local media company based in Raleigh, North Carolina, USA. We have detected that you are in one of the member countries of the European Union, which is now subject to the General Data Protection Regulation. ... Until we are able to ensure our full compliance with the rigorous GDPR requirements, we are blocking access from EU countries to our websites , which include wral.com, wralsportsfan.com, highsch…

Reap what you sow, Europer. Seriously though, is GDPR compliance that difficult? What does a news site have to do to comply?

If you're a small or medium sized non-tech publisher who outsourced the building of your digital publishing system 5 years ago and have been cruising along ever since, you might not be very motivated to spend real cash on a big new IT project to ensure your various server logs don't have IP addresses or other "personally identifying information" in them, just to name an example.

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post #2

A commenter on the article made a snarky reply about Apple choosing China as that's where a lot of the manufacturing is - I wonder why Apple/Amazon don't look internationally for HQ2? Are their international offices 'big enough' for what they need?

You'd have to be insane to keep any of your sensitive IP in China, honestly. But mostly I assume they stick to the U.S. because that's where the talent is (and that's the government they need to have the closest relationship with, too)

Isn't all Apple's hardware IP "in" China?
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