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As someone who reads and listen these people who are called "the intellectual dark web" I would not call them a group of intellectuals. Haidt and Pinker being exceptions. I like to listen Sam Harris and have read a little Mr. Peterson and even listen Joe Rogan who gets into the list somehow. If I criticize these guys it does not mean that I think their net contribution is net negative. Sam Harris is smart and nice to…
> the people at Vox (highly-polished, Ivy-League-educated mutants grown in vats by a DARPA project to engineer the perfect thinkpiece writer) He left out "neoliberal corporate sponsored" but that really hits the nail on the head.
That little gem captures quite a complicated interaction about how society orders itself: that the enforcement of conformity shouldn't be so strong that opposition cannot form against it.
I suppose the flip side of this is that political groups have a responsibility to self-regulate their own more extreme elements so that external action is clearly not needed. It'd be lovely to see more of that on the left and right of politics.
> But shutting up is of course is the exact opposite of what the people involved are doing – as the Times points out, several IDW members have audiences in the millions, monthly Patreon revenue in the five to six figures, and (with a big enough security detail) regular college speaking engagements. That's beside the point though, as I don't think the complain/claim is that they are silenced from everywhere and have n…
The “mainstream media”, especially print journalism, is made up of underpaid people making sacrifices for a career they believe in. If you think they are doing such a terrible job, quit your high paid engineering job and try freelance journalism for a few years.
The David and Goliath narrative the New Right Wing loves so much is wearing a little thin.
As someone who reads and listen these people who are called "the intellectual dark web" I would not call them a group of intellectuals. Haidt and Pinker being exceptions. I like to listen Sam Harris and have read a little Mr. Peterson and even listen Joe Rogan who gets into the list somehow. If I criticize these guys it does not mean that I think their net contribution is net negative. Sam Harris is smart and nice to…
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I was trying to point out the low quality of people identified as "intellectuals". People who oversimplify ideals that I agree should be criticized just as much as people who I disagree with.
I am an elitist in a sense that I seek improvement and intellectual challenge and I don't think popular ways to present them has intellectual value. I think that people who are most principled thinkers should get most of the recognition, and lead others, not pundits.
> These donations can add up. Mr. Rubin said his show makes at least $30,000 a month on Patreon. And Mr. Peterson says he pulls in some $80,000 in fan donations each month. It won't be long until the censors find out and start demanding Patreon to no-platform them.
They already did. https://www.change.org/p/ask-patreon-to-pull-the-plug-on-pet... Didn't go very far. I dimly remember a direct attempt to get Patreon to pull the plug, but that could have been somebody else.
This is a great example of what bugs me about this crowd. They seemlessly move from actual problematic behavior (like a few famous examples of deplatforming at a few elite college campuses) to Twitter mobs and not entirely supportive op-ed pieces, as if it's all of a kind. Every public person gets Twitter mobbed, but they talk about mean people on Twitter as if it's more evidence that the entire American left has become deranged.
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The reason you're passive aggressive isn't clear to me. I used the "alt" prefix to reinforce the irony of the name "alternative" right being the mainstream right movement. Is this why you're angry?
>The reason you're passive aggressive isn't clear to me. The alt-right is a white nationalist/Nazi movement. You flippantly labeled half the country as Nazis, and you're surprised someone would call this out? >I used the "alt" prefix to reinforce the irony of the name "alternative" right being the mainstream right movement. Doubling down eh?
When I presented my own moderate Dem perspective, I was shouted down and then banned.
100% agree most conservatives are not racists or fascists -- but in their tribalism, they have allowed themselves to become complicit fellow travellers.
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I mean, I do feel like my ideas/community are the underdog and I'm not even all that rightwing (I'm pro stuff like basic income, but also against minimum wage). The thing about underdog is this. Our culture as produced in books/film/tv/music is dominated by left leaning beliefs. If your conservate the media that naturally surrounds you does not reflect or celebrate your values. Though I'm not saying they don't exist.…
I wouldn't really consider HN particularly left wing. It's fully capitalist and any thread that discusses social issues is full of libertarians. Anything that has a faint whiff of anti-capitalism is promptly removed from the front page. Sure there are _some_ wide-spread beliefs here that happen to align with the left, but I would suggest that HN is far more libertarian than it is left-wing.