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Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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Post by oneeyedpigeon »

true_religion wrote: post #212
oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't Apache installed by default on at least all desktops nowadays? Obviously, people should be expected to tinker with httpd.conf, but something fully automated running on top of Apache isn't beyond imagination - and the installation could even be handled automatically if required.

When you say all desktops, are you including Windows and OSX in this?

OSX is the only desktop OS I have recent experience with; consider that question a genuine one rather than a rhetorical one!

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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Post by j605 »

anilgulecha wrote: post #206
begriffs wrote: post #188

Why has this become so complicated? I use Newsboat https://newsboat.org/ to read RSS, and follow about 100 very interesting authors that way. I just put the RSS urls into a text file and the self-contained 1.7mb program does the rest. Somehow it gets by without using a combination of Electron, Mongo, Algolia, Redis, machine learning (!), and Sendgrid. Maybe the comparison with a text-based RSS reader isn't fair and W…

> Winds does some crazy cool stuff, but it's hard to see what that is exactly Images, audio and video in content.

I open all three in mpv from newsboat and it does a better job of handling them than a browser would using hardware decoding for videos.

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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Post by superwayne »

skrause wrote: post #21

> I love using RSS to follow the programming and tech news I care about. Unfortunately, the number of sites supporting RSS has been in rapid decline over the last few years. The reader ecosystem is slowly degrading as well. After that introduction I was hoping Winds would be some kind of proxy that creates an RSS for sites that don't have one. But well, it's just another RSS reader. Those have actually never gone way…

If you don't mind writing a bit of Python glue code, you can also use https://github.com/nblock/feeds (I'm one of the authors). It uses Scrapy under the hood and is supposed to run as a cronjob. It will create full text Atom feeds of whatever data you will feed to it. Spiders (plugins) are usually quite small, especially when there is no login (paywall) involved: https://github.com/nblock/feeds/tree/master/feeds/spiders

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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Post by [deleted] »

j605 wrote: post #232
anilgulecha wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Winds does some crazy cool stuff, but it's hard to see what that is exactly Images, audio and video in content.

I open all three in mpv from newsboat and it does a better job of handling them than a browser would using hardware decoding for videos.

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Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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Post by StavrosK »

thawkins wrote: post #230
allanbreyes wrote: post #82

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100% agree with self-hosting an RSS aggregator. It's awesome. Personally, I gave tt-rss and FreshRSS a shot, but went back to Miniflux[1]. One binary to run (written in Golang) and plugs into Postgres. Easy to set up, but I prefer Miniflux for the same reasons I prefer Hacker News' website—simple and functional. [1] https://miniflux.net/

Way way too complicated, needs a setup and configured postgres install, why use an RDBMS when it could have embedded sqlight and avoided all that sysadmin stuff

Agreed, this seems like a perfect fit for SQLite. It's not like you need massive concurrency, and you would have avoided all this administrative burden. Too bad, that's literally the only reason I chose not to try it. FreshRSS seems very nice too, but is also a hassle to deploy (what with apache/nginx and a bunch of requirements).

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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Post by bad_user »

N.B. this isn't fully open source because it relies on the Stream API: https://getstream.io/

They have a free quota of 3 million feed updates (not sure if total, I'm guessing per month?). Important to keep in mind because the app may be open source, but they can pull the plug on it by shutting down the web service. And so you can't self host it independently.

It might be nice, not saying otherwise, but for example something like Newsblur.com is open source and hosted, so you can pay a yearly fee for the service, while having the peace of mind that you can fork it and self host it yourself should the product die, which is what many of us want after Google pulled the plug on Reader ;-)

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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Post by rcxdude »

StavrosK wrote: post #236
thawkins wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Way way too complicated, needs a setup and configured postgres install, why use an RDBMS when it could have embedded sqlight and avoided all that sysadmin stuff

Agreed, this seems like a perfect fit for SQLite. It's not like you need massive concurrency, and you would have avoided all this administrative burden. Too bad, that's literally the only reason I chose not to try it. FreshRSS seems very nice too, but is also a hassle to deploy (what with apache/nginx and a bunch of requirements).

Deployment difficulty is why I wrote my own: https://github.com/rcxdude/nobsrss . It's super easy to deploy, but it's super minimal (unlike the way a lot of people seem to use RSS, I just use it for notifications, so all I need is a link to the actual website).

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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Post by StavrosK »

rcxdude wrote: post #238
StavrosK wrote: post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed, this seems like a perfect fit for SQLite. It's not like you need massive concurrency, and you would have avoided all this administrative burden. Too bad, that's literally the only reason I chose not to try it. FreshRSS seems very nice too, but is also a hassle to deploy (what with apache/nginx and a bunch of requirements).

Deployment difficulty is why I wrote my own: https://github.com/rcxdude/nobsrss . It's super easy to deploy, but it's super minimal (unlike the way a lot of people seem to use RSS, I just use it for notifications, so all I need is a link to the actual website).

Huh, that's pretty cool, although I'd like it if it marked items as read when I clicked on them. You can easily achieve that by adding a URL route to read an item, and when a user visits that, you mark it as read and redirect to the real URL.
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