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Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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post #61

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For reasons I don't understand, it remains incredibly difficult to scrape a well-organized blog and turn it into something I can consume like RSS or a kindle book. Note that many/most WordPress RSS feeds aren't that useful because they only show a snippet rather than the entire post. This dreary state of affairs is due in part to the fact that "checking" an RSS just means downloading the entire file containing all po…

>This dreary state of affairs is due in part to the fact that "checking" an RSS just means downloading the entire file containing all posts the author would like to make public, regardless of how many are new to the reader. This insanely unnecessary bandwidth usage penalizes sites that have long (>10) feeds with complete posts. (The single RSS file on my blog takes up the majority of my bandwidth costs.) Still, excep…

You should already be able to implement this using the If-Modified-Since HTTP header. The server only needs to send you back articles in the RSS feed that have been added after that date. The If-Modified-Since value is meant to come from the previous responses Last-Modified (not a timestamp you make up), so that side-steps timezone issues.

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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post #132

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That’d impose a cost on the server, remembering an ID map. Instead make the client send back a value given by the server last time.

That's something both RSS consumers and produces should already support, but don't always, called an E-Tag, a standard part of the HTTP standard. However, the E-Tag is all-or-nothing; either it matches, and the entire request is essentially aborted, or it doesn't match, and the entire file is served up. Passing "the ID of the last piece of content I saw" would allow the server to return just the updated stuff, or abo…

Couldn't the feed server use the Last-Modified HTTP header to note the most recent feed item sent to the client?

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

#196
post #182

I don't understand why you would ever want this to be a desktop app. Try FreshRSS[1], it's awesome. It works well on shared hosting and it runs on SQLite. TTRSS only gave me trouble. Threw all kinds of strange errors at unexpected times. I don't know how many times it died on me after an upgrade. I eventually gave up and found FreshRSS. Been running (and updating) it over a year, without a single problem. One of the…

> TTRSS only gave me trouble. Threw all kinds of strange errors at unexpected times. I don't know how many times it died on me after an upgrade. Counterpoint: I never had any issues with it and updates are just git pull, maybe login with the admin account for db migration, restart the update daemon, no issues at all.

Same here. Some years ago I switched from Thunderbird on several machines to a self-hosted TT-RSS that vastly improved my (professional) RSS feed browsing. Some minor annoyances with the scrolling when the RSS items are long but overall great experience.

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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I don't understand why you would ever want this to be a desktop app. Try FreshRSS[1], it's awesome. It works well on shared hosting and it runs on SQLite. TTRSS only gave me trouble. Threw all kinds of strange errors at unexpected times. I don't know how many times it died on me after an upgrade. I eventually gave up and found FreshRSS. Been running (and updating) it over a year, without a single problem. One of the…

100% agree with self-hosting an RSS aggregator. It's awesome. Personally, I gave tt-rss and FreshRSS a shot, but went back to Miniflux[1]. One binary to run (written in Golang) and plugs into Postgres. Easy to set up, but I prefer Miniflux for the same reasons I prefer Hacker News' website—simple and functional. [1] https://miniflux.net/

Since I'm considering to switch from TTRSS to something else, may I drill a bit? (the website is a tad short)

I heavily rely on nested categories in TTRSS (Youtube -> News for news channels for example), while the website says it has categories, can they be nested?

And most importantly, does miniflux handle about 700 feeds well? It would help a lot if I could lower the update rate of some feeds that only update once a month...

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

#198
post #47

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If I may add mine: https://www.pipes.digital/ . It allows creating feeds for sites if the site is structured enough, and the feed can then manipulated with other blocks, similar to how Yahoo Pipes worked.

I miss Yahoo Pipes so much! Thanks for creating this service, I'll try it out soon and leave some feedback here!

Feedback is always welcome (and subscribers even more ;) ), you can also send me a mail (in profile) or follow the way described in the docs to reach me (https://www.pipes.digital/docs#support).

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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For reasons I don't understand, it remains incredibly difficult to scrape a well-organized blog and turn it into something I can consume like RSS or a kindle book. Note that many/most WordPress RSS feeds aren't that useful because they only show a snippet rather than the entire post. This dreary state of affairs is due in part to the fact that "checking" an RSS just means downloading the entire file containing all po…

Is the problem really that RSS needs replacement, or can it simply be improved. I think there is quite a bit of room for extension to address some of the concerns that are expressed here too, including accurate meta tagging for educational resource discovery purposes.

I'm under the impression that pulling extensions on RSS will land us in the XMPP situation, where you have servers and clients speaking different languages.

On the other hand, if you want to say that your client supports this supposed RSS-ng standard they need to support those new features because they're part of the protocol.

This is to say, I don't like protocol extensions, but that's just me :)

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

#200
post #81

Two words: News. Blur. I have been using https://newsblur.com for years now (ever since Google Reader died) and am not switching to anything else soon. RSS is not dead.

I did exactly the same thing. I tested quite a few services on the downfall of Google Reader and stuck with Newsblur ever since.

I cannot think of any other service that works as smoothly as Newsblur and provides me with exactly what I need; keyboard shortcuts, good mobile clients, open source, decently priced, constant improvements.

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