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Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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post #11

Why is this a downloadable app instead of a web app? It's built entirely using web technology. I think RSS belongs in my browser, so I can easily access it from whatever computer I might be using.

That's exactly what newsblur.com is. That RSS aggregator is awesome!

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

#72
post #61

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For reasons I don't understand, it remains incredibly difficult to scrape a well-organized blog and turn it into something I can consume like RSS or a kindle book. Note that many/most WordPress RSS feeds aren't that useful because they only show a snippet rather than the entire post. This dreary state of affairs is due in part to the fact that "checking" an RSS just means downloading the entire file containing all po…

>This dreary state of affairs is due in part to the fact that "checking" an RSS just means downloading the entire file containing all posts the author would like to make public, regardless of how many are new to the reader. This insanely unnecessary bandwidth usage penalizes sites that have long (>10) feeds with complete posts. (The single RSS file on my blog takes up the majority of my bandwidth costs.) Still, excep…

That’d impose a cost on the server, remembering an ID map. Instead make the client send back a value given by the server last time.

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

#73
post #22

Just a friendly PSA that WordPress comes with RSS feeds enabled by default. Since an overwhelming majority of content websites use WordPress, I think it's safe to say RSS is still widely available. Try going to your favorite blog and append "?feed=rss2" to the end of the URL. Like so: http://example.com/?feed=rss2

Yeah, even in 2018, sites I encounter without RSS are few and far between.

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

#74
I'm not sure what this non-native application is offering me over plenty of Mac (and presumably Linux & Windows) native versions using way less memory and having platform-native UI controls.

RSS's challenge has never been apps, it's support from publishers to keep using open formats.

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

#75

Did RSS ever go away? Almost all of the blogs I follow still have RSS feeds. Maybe I'm just in a bubble. I think the decline in relative importance of RSS is certainly real, but that's more an effect of people getting their information from more centralized sources (like HN).

Same thoughts here. I actually designed my own template for ATOM feeds for my Hugo generated blog. My blog serves both RSS and ATOM for the home page sections and even various taxonomies. So people interested in Emacs can subscribe to a feed of Emacs related posts only.

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

#76

I don't understand why you would ever want this to be a desktop app. Try FreshRSS[1], it's awesome. It works well on shared hosting and it runs on SQLite. TTRSS only gave me trouble. Threw all kinds of strange errors at unexpected times. I don't know how many times it died on me after an upgrade. I eventually gave up and found FreshRSS. Been running (and updating) it over a year, without a single problem. One of the…

Since Google Reader retired, I've moved to www.netvibes.com

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

#77
post #48

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Sortof, if you are reading via a web based reader, the service itself only reads the feed once, and the users view the cached version.

You mean the fact that aggregators like The Old Reader just download the RSS file from the website periodically, and then serve up cached copies to their many user? True, although this is another way of saying that some of the value added by aggregators only exists by virtue of the terrible design of RSS.

It might be construed as a feature, since a blog can consist of simply static files, no need for running any code relating to RSS.

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

#78
post #23
post #2

I like #ReviveRSS but: > Powered By: Stream, Algolia, MongoDB, SendGrid, AWS My feed reader is an old PHP script running on a NUC.

For those who look for a simple self hosted reader I can recommend: https://miniflux.net/

I'm running it on a RPi and it works perfectly.

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

#79
post #34

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A site should still be able to choose to not produce RSS if they don't want. Encouraging RSS is different than forcing RSS feeds on sites that don't want them.

Site creators have the freedom to produce what they want, and users likewise have the freedom to consume how they want.

I think so too. I use RSS as a very minimalist blog and have had good experiences with it so far. It's hard to monetize the format, but it really draws a lot of people to my side.

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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post #56
post #34

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Site creators have the freedom to produce what they want, and users likewise have the freedom to consume how they want.

Do they? I'm fairly certain they don't. Otherwise everyone would just be torrenting and stripping commercials.

Torrenting is illegal because you (generally) weren't authorized to make a copy. Stripping commercials isn't because you're removing something, or changing the way you read it. There might be some legal case if you have to make another copy of media in order to alter your consumption, but thank God I'm aware of no case attempting to control your personal use of media.

(DMCA doesn't count, it's about circumventing things that prevent you from copying, not change your consumption.)

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