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Re: Siempo's new app will break your smartphone addiction

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Post by shishy »

arrakeen wrote: post #37

imo these apps are completely unnecessary. all i needed to do was leave my phone on do-not-disturb mode at all times. this way, i don't have notifications and vibrations constantly nagging me, and i only check my phone during natural breaks in my activities give it a try

Second this... had the same problem; FB started giving me notifications for the most pointless things just so I'd put my eyes back on the phone.

Using that meant I gradually checked the phone on "my terms" and overtime reduced it rather significantly.

Re: Siempo's new app will break your smartphone addiction

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Post by jpzisme »

superflyguy wrote: post #5
andrewmd wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Andrew from Siempo here - with optimizations in an upcoming release we will no longer need to ask for this permission. Apologies for the inconvenience! We are committed to respecting user's privacy and are currently working with The Center of Humane Tech community to improve our privacy policy word by word, and make the changes necessary for GDPR.

You've got two days.

Neat, bro.

Re: Siempo's new app will break your smartphone addiction

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Post by andrei_says_ »

arrakeen wrote: post #37

imo these apps are completely unnecessary. all i needed to do was leave my phone on do-not-disturb mode at all times. this way, i don't have notifications and vibrations constantly nagging me, and i only check my phone during natural breaks in my activities give it a try

That’s where it’s at.

The constant stream of notifications does not distinguish well what’s important and too much of it ends up in the Important/Urgent quadrant.

                Important | Urgent
                ------------------
                          |
    Important             | 
                          |
                ------------------
                          |
    Urgent                | 
                          |
I hope we'll start seeing more app- and os-level tools to sort out notifications into the correct quadrant. This is where I'd welcome AI-based solutions. Gmail already offers me to unsubscribe from un-opened newsletters. Can't wait for a She-like AI-assistant who would take on the drudgery of my inbox.

Such changes of course would be counter productive to the business model of many social apps which use intermittent rewards to create easy to exploit addictive behaviors allowing them to monetize on the unregulated resource of human attention. This includes establishing addiction in children, as a business model.

Attention is one of the most valuable assets human beings have. Focused attention + time are two of the pillars of any achievement and becoming. Robbing humanity of its power to become and achieve is not a healthy or sustainable source of profit.

Re: Siempo's new app will break your smartphone addiction

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Post by reshie »

arrakeen wrote: post #37

imo these apps are completely unnecessary. all i needed to do was leave my phone on do-not-disturb mode at all times. this way, i don't have notifications and vibrations constantly nagging me, and i only check my phone during natural breaks in my activities give it a try

true to that and also most os's give pretty good individual app control these days. the only thing i can see is special group controls. to be honest i do not really see the addiction factor especially to the device itself, it's possible functions i suppose. i have seen people that can have very strange addictions though like gambling but there are some very unique ones specific to individuals all of these types are neurological as opposed to physical addiction though.

like you i find them annoying as well but keep important ones like appointments and such.

Re: Siempo's new app will break your smartphone addiction

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Post by solutionyogi »

Rotdhizon wrote: post #20
solutionyogi wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not sure why you are so down on this app. I would agree that majority of people don't realize how addictive smartphones can be and they don't care about fixing it. At the same time, I think there are a decent number of people who realize that a smartphone is a GREAT tool they must have in their life but if they are not careful, it will take over their attention completely. The fact that apps like Moment ( https:…

I meet everything with criticism until it proves applicable. I hope this app succeeds as much as the next person, I just enjoy creating discussion on this type of forum. Instead of just blindly saying "Go app team", I want to point out all the concerns I have with the foundation of the app. That is what this site is about, intellectual discussion.

I am all for constructive criticism and don't think your comment fell under that umbrella.

Re: Siempo's new app will break your smartphone addiction

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Post by Karunamon »

Barrin92 wrote: post #32
Karunamon wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Humans aren't single-threaded, most can glance at their phones mid-conversation with no interruption. Your second paragraph amounts to a kafkatrap (wherein denying the validity of the argument automatically means it applies to the denier).

Humans actually are kind of single-threaded, excessive multitasking has a measurable impact on mental performance. It's trivial to observe for yourself. Try to read and book and interrupt reading every few minutes. You will notice that you will both have to spend more time (by definition), and retain less information. Not to mention that interrupting actual conversations to stare at your phone seems kind of rude, aso…

Unless you have a lot more knowledge about someone than can be gleaned from one or two comments on HN, you lack the context to determine whether someone's use of a thing amounts to addiction.

Re: Siempo's new app will break your smartphone addiction

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Post by Foivos »

arrakeen wrote: post #37

imo these apps are completely unnecessary. all i needed to do was leave my phone on do-not-disturb mode at all times. this way, i don't have notifications and vibrations constantly nagging me, and i only check my phone during natural breaks in my activities give it a try

Also put the phone outside of your sight, like inside your backpack. That way you do not pick it up unconsciously.

Re: Siempo's new app will break your smartphone addiction

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Post by thirduncle »

gcp123 wrote: post #35
thirduncle wrote: post #4

It's actually quite easy to "break" your addiction to smartphones: Don't use them in the first place.

If you've ever done any work to break a habit, or talked to someone who has, you'd know that it's not always that easy.

I have actually - including some pretty nasty ones.

But I'll confess at this point to be at a loss to understand this "smartphone addiction" thing people keep talking about.

Being as I've tried using them, and never understood their appeal in the first place.

Re: Siempo's new app will break your smartphone addiction

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Post by on_and_off »

andrei_says_ wrote: post #43
arrakeen wrote: post #37

imo these apps are completely unnecessary. all i needed to do was leave my phone on do-not-disturb mode at all times. this way, i don't have notifications and vibrations constantly nagging me, and i only check my phone during natural breaks in my activities give it a try

That’s where it’s at. The constant stream of notifications does not distinguish well what’s important and too much of it ends up in the Important/Urgent quadrant. Important | Urgent ------------------ | Important | | ------------------ | Urgent | | I hope we'll start seeing more app- and os-level tools to sort out notifications into the correct quadrant. This is where I'd welcome AI-based solutions. Gmail already off…

I suspect Android is pushing more and more in that direction. I have not seen it in the announcements but one of the features I sea on the P beta is that when I dismiss a notification, the OS might ask me : 'you often display these notification, should I continue displaying them ?'

The groundwork is here with the channel API anyway.

Apps can declare as many channels as they want in order to post notifications there.

For exemple a music app will have the music channel (duh) and maybe a push discovery one.

The developper sets whatever property they want for these channels, but the users can override them. You can for example change the priority, sound or even completely hide them.

Re: Siempo's new app will break your smartphone addiction

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Post by ghostbrainalpha »

andrei_says_ wrote: post #43
arrakeen wrote: post #37

imo these apps are completely unnecessary. all i needed to do was leave my phone on do-not-disturb mode at all times. this way, i don't have notifications and vibrations constantly nagging me, and i only check my phone during natural breaks in my activities give it a try

That’s where it’s at. The constant stream of notifications does not distinguish well what’s important and too much of it ends up in the Important/Urgent quadrant. Important | Urgent ------------------ | Important | | ------------------ | Urgent | | I hope we'll start seeing more app- and os-level tools to sort out notifications into the correct quadrant. This is where I'd welcome AI-based solutions. Gmail already off…

That's neat how you did a matrix in the comment!

But I think you want one of the sides to say "Important / Not Important", "Urgent / Not Urgent".

The Eisenhower Decision Matrix.

https://content.artofmanliness.com/uploads/2013/10/Eisenhowe...

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