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Microsoft’s commitment to GDPR, privacy and customers’ control of their own data

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Re: Microsoft’s commitment to GDPR, privacy and customers’ control of their own data

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Post by glogla »

lozenge wrote: post #53
adventured wrote: post #44

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> Do you buy a car and have to peel all the advertising stickers off the windscreen Yep, something akin to that. Nearly all dealerships - whether luxury brands or not - place some form of dealership identification / promotion on your car when you buy it and without asking permission. That can be a sticker in the door well, it can be an obnoxious attached badge physically on the car surface (never happens with luxury…

Do they put them back with every servicing too?

And do they track you?

Re: Microsoft’s commitment to GDPR, privacy and customers’ control of their own data

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Post by Nursie »

setquk wrote: post #58
Nursie wrote: post #55

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Eh, the dealer sticker in the back window is pretty standard here isn't it? I hate them! I've scrubbed them off a few cars now.

Go have a look around. Since about 2010 it's frowned upon. There are a few dealers who do it but most of the new cars don't have them.

Just goes to show how often I change my car I guess :)

My current one is an 08.

Re: Microsoft’s commitment to GDPR, privacy and customers’ control of their own data

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Post by setquk »

Nursie wrote: post #62
setquk wrote: post #58

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Go have a look around. Since about 2010 it's frowned upon. There are a few dealers who do it but most of the new cars don't have them.

Just goes to show how often I change my car I guess :) My current one is an 08.

Two years newer than mine :)

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Post by Fnoord »

jenscow wrote: post #43
Fnoord wrote: post #25

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Microsoft is reinventing itself. You can disable those ads. You can remove apps like Skype. Manually or with an app such as O&O Shut Up. I also use Classic Shell instead of the new start menu.

> Microsoft is reinventing itself. Agreed. They're no longer selling software licences, but targeted ads based on what you do locally on your personal computer. And people "allow" this by not jumping through hoops to disable it.

> They're no longer selling software licences, but targeted ads based on what you do locally on your personal computer.

They're doing both, but Google does something like that as well (that doesn't make it right, but it puts it in perspective that its the newest rage), and Microsoft is a convicted monopolist. The old Microsoft was much more evil than the current.

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Post by vntok »

gerdesj wrote: post #26
toomanybeersies wrote: post #3

Here's a question I haven't seen asked or answered: Can I now (in 4 days time), ask Microsoft for all the data it's hoovered up from my Windows 10 installation? I've only seen people talking about GDPR as it applies to websites, but as far as I'm aware, it applies to all software.

Can I now (in 4 days time), ask Microsoft for all the data it's hoovered up from my Windows 10 installation? I'd also suggest asking for proof. For that you will require non encrypted traffic streams and/or source code ...

Nonsense. Where in the GDPR is it specified that you are entitled to the providers' IP? Auditing compliance is done by parties trusted by both sides, certainly not by amateurs and certainly not by individual vigilantes.

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Post by vntok »

Kim_Bruning wrote: post #42
kartan wrote: post #23

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Yes. I got my configuration reset and needed to set up some features again. This is an example of what you get on startup, and cannot be skipped: https://twitter.com/baekdal/status/996391978957987845

I keep looking for the "None" option; but I guess that's Enterprise only?

Explicit user consent is not the only way to get GDPR compliant

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Post by tinus_hn »

setquk wrote: post #56
microtonal wrote: post #50

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Ah, thanks. For some reason, it didn't click for me. Probably because I always do a fresh install after buying a new Mac (which does not install Garage Band). But indeed, are we really comparing a productivity tool that isn't used to extract more money to a third-party game that thrives on in-app purchases? I guess that Windows users are generally less upset about such bundling, since OEMs have done it for years.

Yeah it only comes bundled if you do a "full" install off the MacOS media. I do a fresh minimal install on mine. Windows users, myself included, have always been upset about the bundling. When you buy a PC these days you have to spend about 2-3 hours removing all the crap from it or doing an install from scratch to remove the cocked up default windows install. I think that less upset is more toleration via attrition.…

Also besides the disk space usage the extra apps do not slow down your computer in any way. They are not active unless you use them. Unlike much of the bundled crap on a Windows machine.

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Post by hungerstrike »

miaklesp wrote: post #36
glogla wrote: post #18

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Also ads for Candy Crush in you operating system. Microsoft is scum. They have not changed from the 90s, they are just better at hiding it.

Hatera gonna hate What about Guitar Hero crap boundled with every Mac?

Also, you have to look at ads every time you update with their app store.

Same thing on iOS.

Edit: changed “the App Store” to “their app store”, since that’s a common term that Apple shouldn’t have been able to misappropriate.

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Post by mulletbum »

setquk wrote: post #56
microtonal wrote: post #50

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Ah, thanks. For some reason, it didn't click for me. Probably because I always do a fresh install after buying a new Mac (which does not install Garage Band). But indeed, are we really comparing a productivity tool that isn't used to extract more money to a third-party game that thrives on in-app purchases? I guess that Windows users are generally less upset about such bundling, since OEMs have done it for years.

Yeah it only comes bundled if you do a "full" install off the MacOS media. I do a fresh minimal install on mine. Windows users, myself included, have always been upset about the bundling. When you buy a PC these days you have to spend about 2-3 hours removing all the crap from it or doing an install from scratch to remove the cocked up default windows install. I think that less upset is more toleration via attrition.…

This isn't Microsoft putting that junk on your computer.

In a stock install of Windows you will have Windows Store installs of Candy Crush and some other junk, but none of it is running when the machine boots. It's also very simple to delete, but it is annoying it is there in the first place.

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Post by mulletbum »

ionised wrote: post #49
willyyr wrote: post #15

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There is an option to delete all diagnostic data collected (Windows 10 1803). You can find it under Settings->Privacy-> Diagnostics & feedback-> Delete diagnostic data. As others have mentioned you can access and manage it using the portal that is linked.* * I work at Microsoft.

Why not allow to me to stop that collection in the first place?

You can, what do you see on your report that you want to stop?
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