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Edmunds Tesla Model 3 Long-Term Road Test Update for April

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Re: Edmunds Tesla Model 3 Long-Term Road Test Update for April

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Post by greglindahl »

gomox wrote: post #33
userbinator wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a new kind of fun to lift off the throttle ahead of a corner and realize you've already scrubbed enough speed without even touching the pedal. That sounds similar to the feeling of driving a bus or other heavy vehicle with a retarder and/or Jake brake.

Sounds like driving a manual, actually. You just use the brakes a lot less.

Except with a manual, you're reducing the lifetime of your clutch, while with regenerative brakes, you're saving energy.

I find that one-pedal driving makes me much more mellow: I play a game where I try to never have to use the actual brakes.

Disclaimer: my first clutch lasted 120,000 miles.

Re: Edmunds Tesla Model 3 Long-Term Road Test Update for April

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Post by justin66 »

rorso wrote: post #15
abduhl wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am trying to think of any other first generation first year car that had a problem so basic as being on the order of "car doesn't recognize the key/keyfob and so won't start" and I can't think of one.

My first-release Subaru XV wouldn't re-start lots during the stop-start feature... in traffic. You'd have to put it in park, completely turn the car off, take key out, put key back in, and restart the car. Turning off the stop-start was the "solution" offered online, which reset every time you got back in the car (so it was easy to forget). Also the entire entertainment unit would "crash" every couple days, and not w…

VW and Subaru don't rank near the top of anyone's reliability rankings. You don't seem bothered by the problems, but if you were you could always buy something like a Toyota/Lexus.

Re: Edmunds Tesla Model 3 Long-Term Road Test Update for April

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Post by colordrops »

carlivar wrote: post #39
dave1619 wrote: post #8

I've owned a Model 3 for over 5 months now with almost 6k miles on it. All I can attest to is my personal experience and the experience of some friends who also own a Model 3. Performance and handling on this car is truly amazing. Autopilot (at least in my personal experience) has been excellent. That said I understand the limitations of Autopilot and keep cautious oversight when it's on. I've head a few minor issues…

How do you like the touchscreen? This has always been my biggest concern. I don't like non tactile controls, and it sounds like some fairly simple and common features like mirror adjustments are buried in menus. Taking eye off the road for that screen doesn't sound good?

The UI is pretty intuitive and they are making regular usability updates. Many things on the car are automatic so you don't have to mess with controls anyway, such as windshield wipers, lights, seat position, etc.

Re: Edmunds Tesla Model 3 Long-Term Road Test Update for April

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Post by greglindahl »

carlivar wrote: post #39
dave1619 wrote: post #8

I've owned a Model 3 for over 5 months now with almost 6k miles on it. All I can attest to is my personal experience and the experience of some friends who also own a Model 3. Performance and handling on this car is truly amazing. Autopilot (at least in my personal experience) has been excellent. That said I understand the limitations of Autopilot and keep cautious oversight when it's on. I've head a few minor issues…

How do you like the touchscreen? This has always been my biggest concern. I don't like non tactile controls, and it sounds like some fairly simple and common features like mirror adjustments are buried in menus. Taking eye off the road for that screen doesn't sound good?

I've never "commonly" adjusted a side mirror -- it's a very occasional thing.

Re: Edmunds Tesla Model 3 Long-Term Road Test Update for April

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Post by justin66 »

MBCook wrote: post #4

I can’t wait to see the apologists on this one. The Model 3 seems more like an alpha/prototype than a real car for consumers. As soon as I saw the interior I knew it wasn’t going to go well, seems it’s worse than I thought. Add in the software issues and other bugs they seem to be in countering in this is a pathetic experience for a $60,000 car + years of waiting.

> The Model 3 seems more like an alpha/prototype than a real car for consumers.

It seems more like a car built to quality standards of two decades ago, if you ignore the powertrain and infotainment systems.

Re: Edmunds Tesla Model 3 Long-Term Road Test Update for April

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Post by greglindahl »

yumraj wrote: post #29
sunstone wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was one vehicle. The first test was fine. Subsequent tests were not. It's pretty clearly a flaw in the brakes of that particular vehicle. If CR wants to generalize from that fine, but it's not doing a service to its readers.

I will disagree, I think they are making people aware of a potential problem, if indeed this is only with some cars, as most people won't know just by driving if their car's breaking is per the specs.

This thread is an excellent example of how people will over-interpret such a warning.

Re: Edmunds Tesla Model 3 Long-Term Road Test Update for April

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Post by carlivar »

greglindahl wrote: post #44
carlivar wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you like the touchscreen? This has always been my biggest concern. I don't like non tactile controls, and it sounds like some fairly simple and common features like mirror adjustments are buried in menus. Taking eye off the road for that screen doesn't sound good?

I've never "commonly" adjusted a side mirror -- it's a very occasional thing.

That is true, I'm getting old and have memory seats now. I'm 6'4" so this used to be more common for me before memory seats. Or in other people's cars.

Re: Edmunds Tesla Model 3 Long-Term Road Test Update for April

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Post by carlivar »

colordrops wrote: post #43
carlivar wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you like the touchscreen? This has always been my biggest concern. I don't like non tactile controls, and it sounds like some fairly simple and common features like mirror adjustments are buried in menus. Taking eye off the road for that screen doesn't sound good?

The UI is pretty intuitive and they are making regular usability updates. Many things on the car are automatic so you don't have to mess with controls anyway, such as windshield wipers, lights, seat position, etc.

So do you feel like you don't need to take your eyes off the road any more than with traditional controls?

Re: Edmunds Tesla Model 3 Long-Term Road Test Update for April

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Post by mmt »

greglindahl wrote: post #41
gomox wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like driving a manual, actually. You just use the brakes a lot less.

Except with a manual, you're reducing the lifetime of your clutch, while with regenerative brakes, you're saving energy. I find that one-pedal driving makes me much more mellow: I play a game where I try to never have to use the actual brakes. Disclaimer: my first clutch lasted 120,000 miles.

> Except with a manual, you're reducing the lifetime of your clutch

Huh? How is engine braking (or, for that matter anything) on a fully-engaged dry clutch going to reduce its lifetime?

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