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Re: Sci Hub repository torrents of scientific papers

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Post by andrepd »

jacquesm wrote: post #158
votingprawn wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was a researcher at a reasonably big UK University until about 6 months ago, and I used SciHub fairly regularly. Sometimes I used it because we didn't have the right subscription for that publisher to get me the journal I needed, but mainly I used SciHub to access papers I already had the "right" to access. The layers of logins screens, buggy single-sign-on systems, having to be in the right IP address range, not b…

Piracy has one USP that the competition lacks that is very hard for them to replicate: convenience.

Why is it very hard? Take a look at the most successful platform for games, Steam, to see both things aren't mutually exclusive.

Re: Sci Hub repository torrents of scientific papers

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Post by bborud »

ksk wrote: post #62

Why are people breaking copyright law, instead of questioning the researchers who voluntarily approach the journals? Why not ask the researchers if they'd consider sharing their work? Or convince them of an alternative means of publication. There is no one-handed clap.

Because it is inefficient and change is unlikely?

Re: Sci Hub repository torrents of scientific papers

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Post by hyperbovine »

votingprawn wrote: post #142
michaelbuckbee wrote: post #25

Not being in a scientific field, one of the previous times this came up I asked if any of the working scientists felt like SciHub had positively impacted their work: exposing them to more papers than they would have read, guiding them in different ways, etc. and the answer was a pretty overwhelming "ohmygodyes". From the outside, it's very difficult to see this as anything but a public good. It certainly seems like l…

I was a researcher at a reasonably big UK University until about 6 months ago, and I used SciHub fairly regularly. Sometimes I used it because we didn't have the right subscription for that publisher to get me the journal I needed, but mainly I used SciHub to access papers I already had the "right" to access. The layers of logins screens, buggy single-sign-on systems, having to be in the right IP address range, not b…

I have had access to pretty much every journal in existence by working at big R1s for some time now. Still I find myself using SciHub on a daily basis when I am not on campus. Much easier to append '.sci-hub.hk' than authenticate (2-factor now), fire up the proxy, etc.

Re: Sci Hub repository torrents of scientific papers

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Post by Vinnl »

Gatsky wrote: post #128

This is a magnificent cultural artifact, a modern day library of Alexandria. That it had to be 'stolen' is disappointing. Wonder how it must feel for Elsevier to have their entire business up on a torrent. Zero sympathy here.

To be fair, their business isn't really those articles, it's extracting rent on making use of their brand names...

Re: Sci Hub repository torrents of scientific papers

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Post by bborud »

ksk wrote: post #97
sdenton4 wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's a couple: a) Gatekeeping publishers keep research from being available to less-elite schools that can't afford the subscriptions, creating a rich-get-richer dynamic in science. Leveling the playing field will lead to more-better output. b) High subscription fees increase university fees, which translate directly into student loans. As many have pointed out before, publicly funded research should be open access…

Are you aware that researchers voluntarily approach publishers? And if you are, what is your rationale in blaming the publisher? >Here's a couple: a) Gatekeeping publishers keep research from being available to less-elite schools that can't afford the subscriptions, creating a rich-get-richer dynamic in science. Leveling the playing field will lead to more-better output. >b) High subscription fees increase university…

No, they do not voluntarily approach publishers. It is a faustian bargain in which society ultimately pays the price.

I suspect that you either do not understand how academic reputation is built or you think it is somehow beneficial for society to ensure a system that makes scientific knowledge unavailable to anyone byt the elite.

Re: Sci Hub repository torrents of scientific papers

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Post by tomrod »

akvadrako wrote: post #102
albutr wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Definitely a great resource, but (thankfully) it's almost completely redundant in a lot of fields. I'm willing to bet almost no one in my department has ever actually used it, or even heard of it, thanks to preprint servers like arXiv where almost everyone publishes their work for free on their own (usually either before or after publishing in a real journal, but some subfields have taken to exclusively publishing th…

I don't know what field you are talking about, but in physics only about 95% of papers I want to read are published on arXiv, including older ones. I assume most researchers occasionally read something from scihub or subscription services.

Downside to this is if there is a major revision during publication peer review that doesn't get reflected in arxiv. Economics has has SSRN for years, and while not as widely adopted I would presume the issues between the two are similar.

Re: Sci Hub repository torrents of scientific papers

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Post by franzpeterstein »

phyzome wrote: post #44
nneonneo wrote: post #14

The total collection is 54.54 TiB, with 690 torrents as of writing. For preservation purposes, I put magnet links to all the torrents here: https://pastebin.com/zTAqS7wz So, even if the torrents go away, the magnet links should still be usable. (Edited: fixed link)

Downloading all the torrent files: mkdir torrents for i in {000..689}; do curl -sS "http://gen.lib.rus.ec/scimag/repository_torrent/sm_${i}00000-${i}99999.torrent" -o "torrents/sm_${i}00000-${i}99999.torrent" -m 30; done ...which themselves take up about 75 MB, so here is the full collection of torrent files for your convenience: https://lab.brainonfire.net/drop/delete-after/20180630/torre... (please use the next lin…

[wget] wget -r -l1 -H -t1 -nd -N -np -A.torrent -erobots=off http://gen.lib.rus.ec/scimag/repository_torrent/

Re: Sci Hub repository torrents of scientific papers

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Post by progval »

userbinator wrote: post #30
nneonneo wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The _whole_ thing? It's 54 TB, how do you plan on receiving it?

I think tape would probably be the best choice --- a single LTO-7 tape cartridge holds 6TB and costs <$100USD. Of course the drive is quite expensive, but HDDs are less reliable and more expensive per GB.

Tapes are only good for offline storage.

If you want online storage, you'll need one drive per tape, and you would get huge lookup times.

Re: Sci Hub repository torrents of scientific papers

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Post by nneonneo »

Faaak wrote: post #144
nneonneo wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I base64'd a torrent file containing the HTML index and all 690 current torrent files and stuck it here: https://pastebin.com/p1nN6veK . Would appreciate if you could upload that in a binary format somewhere. Magnet link for simplicity: magnet:?xt=urn%3Abtih%3A97fc8218775e3a1e5b90607435c0581f839e0f1d&dn=repository_torrent&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.open-internet.nl…

I can't manage to load this magnet link in transmission: Error adding "magnet:?xt=urn%3Abtih%3A97fc8218775e3a1e5b90607435c0581f839e0f1d&dn=repository_torrent&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.open-internet.nl%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.skyts.net%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.piratepublic.com%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%…

Sorry, just tried this and apparently Transmission isn't a fan of the encoded colons (despite that being very valid URL syntax).

Try this one instead:

  magnet:?xt=urn:btih:97fc8218775e3a1e5b90607435c0581f839e0f1d&dn=repository_torrent&tr=udp:%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk:6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp:%2F%2Ftracker.open-internet.nl:6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp:%2F%2Ftracker.skyts.net:6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp:%2F%2Ftracker.piratepublic.com:1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp:%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org:1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp:%2F%2F9.rarbg.to:2710%2Fannounce&tr=udp:%2F%2Fpublic.popcorn-tracker.org:6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp:%2F%2Ftracker1.wasabii.com.tw:6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp:%2F%2Ftracker.zer0day.to:1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp:%2F%2Ftracker.xku.tv:6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp:%2F%2Ftracker.vanitycore.co:6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp:%2F%2Ftracker.mg64.net:6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp:%2F%2Ftracker.tiny-vps.com:6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp:%2F%2Fp4p.arenabg.com:1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp:%2F%2Foscar.reyesleon.xyz:6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp:%2F%2Fopen.stealth.si:80%2Fannounce&tr=udp:%2F%2Fopen.facedatabg.net:6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp:%2F%2Fmgtracker.org:6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp:%2F%2Fipv4.tracker.harry.lu:80%2Fannounce&tr=udp:%2F%2Finferno.demonoid.pw:3418%2Fannounce

Re: Sci Hub repository torrents of scientific papers

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Post by jacquesm »

andrepd wrote: post #161
jacquesm wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Piracy has one USP that the competition lacks that is very hard for them to replicate: convenience.

Why is it very hard? Take a look at the most successful platform for games, Steam, to see both things aren't mutually exclusive.

There is a huge difference between Steam and Elsevier and I'm not sure why you feel the one is an example of how the other could evolve. The one sells games for entertainment purposes to the masses, the other sells subscriptions to scientific institutions to give them access to research papers. It's b2c vs b2b and a competitive space versus a captive audience.
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