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Pity the Poor Couple Who Make $450,000 Per Year

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Re: Pity the Poor Couple Who Make $450,000 Per Year

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Not really saying all that much. We earn over $250k so we're considered superich though that's not fair because we're not really rich because we spend all our money on normal stuff like house and groceries and richer people evade taxes offshore but we're not rich enough to do that and we could evade taxes by pretending to be divorced but we're too moral to do that and if you tax us we'll have to fire our gardener and…

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You, sir, are an idiot. I can't even be bothered to argue with it.

Re: Pity the Poor Couple Who Make $450,000 Per Year

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While it does piss me off to read someone who makes so much money complain, I don't think it's ridiculous for someone who already looses nearly half their income in taxes being concerned about a further hike. Suppose that last year I made $10k. Someone, somewhere, thinks that's a hell of a lot of money. But I bet most people on HN would not condemn me for being concerned about the government taking a few extra thousand.

His closing comment:

>The problem with the president’s plan is that the super rich don’t pay taxes – they hide in the Cayman Islands or use fancy investment vehicles to shelter their income.

seems like it might have some merit as well, although I am not in a position to actually know for certain.

Although, I have asked my father in the past what he pays for taxes, and he has told me well above 50%. He makes nothing like this man's wages, which makes me wonder how this man is getting away with less than 50%...

Re: Pity the Poor Couple Who Make $450,000 Per Year

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As much as I sometimes differ with Obama's policies, you do not seem to understand what Marxism is at all and would do well to read up on it before trying to say who is or isn't a Marxist. You can start here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism . See the part about the proletarian revolution? Not exactly something Obama is pushing for, among many, many other differences between his policies and Marxism.

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> Please tell me where things went wrong.

Among other things, you've failed to demonstrate that Obama believes Capitalism is inherently exploitative. Even if you'd managed that, you'd still need to prove that he also supports the other tenets of Marxism, like the one I called out in my comment.

A person is not automatically a Marxist merely for having some affinity to any part of the overall philosophy. Instead, one is a Marxist if the overall body of their philosophy matches. Obama has never advocated the a revolution of the proletariat, one of the core ideas of Marxism. There is also no evidence that he sees Capitalism as inherently exploitative, nor that he endorses the view that a person is exploited if they produce more than they consume. To the extent that he has supported policies to enhance equality of well-being, they have mostly been aimed at shoring up a necessary minimum level of well-being via taxes, not by transferring the means of production from the bourgeois to the proletariat.

For these reasons and many others, it is completely misguided to call him a Marxist. Say rather that he has implemented some economic policies that would be vaguely similar to a small subset of the policies that a Marxist leader might implement. Better still, say nothing at all; you have demonstrated that you are not qualified in either duty to truth nor possession of knowledge to comment.

Re: Pity the Poor Couple Who Make $450,000 Per Year

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> Perhaps Henderson's outburst should be chalked up to the influence of degenerate white culture

This would be unacceptable to say about any other ethnic group - I've got to say, if you're Caucasian you should get upset at general hate speech and slapping "white" on something like it's a bad thing. I keep the company of people of all color and background, I'll do business with anyone I like, but it's time white people stop taking abuse like this passively. Any other ethnic group would be up in arms, calling this guy a racist asshole, and writing off his credibility permanently.

Re: Pity the Poor Couple Who Make $450,000 Per Year

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hopefully he will keep his job if he is good at it. No sense wasting that education when lawyers can learn good practice from him, even if his politics suck. You are basically advocating employer censoring of employees' private political opinions and expression, which is a dark road to advocate if there ever was one.

We can wish for bad karma though

We shouldn't. There's enough evil in the world already, and this man losing his job is not likely to make things better.

Re: Pity the Poor Couple Who Make $450,000 Per Year

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Not really saying all that much. We earn over $250k so we're considered superich though that's not fair because we're not really rich because we spend all our money on normal stuff like house and groceries and richer people evade taxes offshore but we're not rich enough to do that and we could evade taxes by pretending to be divorced but we're too moral to do that and if you tax us we'll have to fire our gardener and…

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> Do you even remember the election? Obama clearly said that he wants to 'spread the wealth around

Do you have any idea what Marxism means?

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You, sir, are an idiot. I can't even be bothered to argue with it.

This is HN. Tell him why he's wrong. No need to call him names. Attack the ideas, not the person.

If you think he's just being a troll, just ignore him.

Re: Pity the Poor Couple Who Make $450,000 Per Year

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> Perhaps Henderson's outburst should be chalked up to the influence of degenerate white culture This would be unacceptable to say about any other ethnic group - I've got to say, if you're Caucasian you should get upset at general hate speech and slapping "white" on something like it's a bad thing. I keep the company of people of all color and background, I'll do business with anyone I like, but it's time white peopl…

> Any other ethnic group would be up in arms

That is because the other ethnic groups are not the dominant ones in society, and are typically disadvantaged on the whole because of their race. My personal view as a White person is that I have enough advantages by my White male-ness that I do not need to demand more, or do anything to offset whatever minor inconveniences might arise from the same. Doing so would seem petty to me if I walked in another man's shoes.

Is this racist? Yes, I suppose. White privilege is real, though. A recognition of this fact requires some ability to discriminate between race when observing the state of society, so perhaps "racist" should not be the bad word. Instead, "racial oppressivism" might be a better thing to demonize.

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