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Re: Sci Hub repository torrents of scientific papers

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Post by phyzome »

nneonneo wrote: post #46
phyzome wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Downloading all the torrent files: mkdir torrents for i in {000..689}; do curl -sS "http://gen.lib.rus.ec/scimag/repository_torrent/sm_${i}00000-${i}99999.torrent" -o "torrents/sm_${i}00000-${i}99999.torrent" -m 30; done ...which themselves take up about 75 MB, so here is the full collection of torrent files for your convenience: https://lab.brainonfire.net/drop/delete-after/20180630/torre... (please use the next lin…

I base64'd a torrent file containing the HTML index and all 690 current torrent files and stuck it here: https://pastebin.com/p1nN6veK . Would appreciate if you could upload that in a binary format somewhere. Magnet link for simplicity: magnet:?xt=urn%3Abtih%3A97fc8218775e3a1e5b90607435c0581f839e0f1d&dn=repository_torrent&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.open-internet.nl…

Thanks! Uploaded as binary to https://lab.brainonfire.net/drop/delete-after/20180630/scihu... and currently seeding.

Re: Sci Hub repository torrents of scientific papers

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Post by ksk »

Why are people breaking copyright law, instead of questioning the researchers who voluntarily approach the journals? Why not ask the researchers if they'd consider sharing their work? Or convince them of an alternative means of publication.

There is no one-handed clap.

Re: Sci Hub repository torrents of scientific papers

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Post by aaron-lebo »

albutr wrote: post #58
michaelbuckbee wrote: post #25

Not being in a scientific field, one of the previous times this came up I asked if any of the working scientists felt like SciHub had positively impacted their work: exposing them to more papers than they would have read, guiding them in different ways, etc. and the answer was a pretty overwhelming "ohmygodyes". From the outside, it's very difficult to see this as anything but a public good. It certainly seems like l…

Definitely a great resource, but (thankfully) it's almost completely redundant in a lot of fields. I'm willing to bet almost no one in my department has ever actually used it, or even heard of it, thanks to preprint servers like arXiv where almost everyone publishes their work for free on their own (usually either before or after publishing in a real journal, but some subfields have taken to exclusively publishing th…

This is my experience in political science as well.

Poli sci is starting to get some really good repositories of data (replication is something we actually care about), but for a long time common practice has been to post your paper on your own site. Nobody is going to stop you.

Ex.

https://sites.google.com/site/brynrosenfeld/research

These are a number of articles in major journals which if you go through Wiley are closed access, but a quick search will bring it up. The only reason that doesn't happen is the author doesn't want to do it, which is detrimental to them because their research isn't promulgated as easily.

This stuff tends to be working itself out outside of SciHub, it's just the most visible route (probably because the approach is so newsworthy, being illegal and taking on big interests).

Re: Sci Hub repository torrents of scientific papers

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Post by ksk »

jacquesm wrote: post #19
raister wrote: post #17

Is this legal?

Definitely not. But you could have some interesting discussions about morality and the legality of hoarding publicly funded scientific results behind paywalls.

There is a very very simple fix for this. Convince the researchers to either self-publish or use a non-paywalled publication/journal.

Re: Sci Hub repository torrents of scientific papers

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Post by jMyles »

ksk wrote: post #62

Why are people breaking copyright law, instead of questioning the researchers who voluntarily approach the journals? Why not ask the researchers if they'd consider sharing their work? Or convince them of an alternative means of publication. There is no one-handed clap.

Not everyone lives in a jurisdiction where copyright law exists. Among those who do, not everyone lives in a jurisdiction where this action is a violation of that law. Of those who do, not everyone recognizes copyright law as legitimate or binding on their conduct.

Re: Sci Hub repository torrents of scientific papers

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Post by nneonneo »

ksk wrote: post #62

Why are people breaking copyright law, instead of questioning the researchers who voluntarily approach the journals? Why not ask the researchers if they'd consider sharing their work? Or convince them of an alternative means of publication. There is no one-handed clap.

For what it's worth, while I publish in conference venues, like ACM SIGCHI and ACM UIST, I also make every paper available online on my own website as explicitly allowed by ACM's copyright rules. Many authors in my field do likewise.

Unfortunately, the situation with many journals in the hard sciences tends to be more dire, especially since the longer history of their fields means that many important papers are only online as paywalled, scanned PDFs (where the original author may not even be around to make the work freely available).

Re: Sci Hub repository torrents of scientific papers

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Post by s0rce »

ksk wrote: post #62

Why are people breaking copyright law, instead of questioning the researchers who voluntarily approach the journals? Why not ask the researchers if they'd consider sharing their work? Or convince them of an alternative means of publication. There is no one-handed clap.

It can take days to weeks to hear back from a busy researcher to get a copy of their paper. Half the time you skim it and determine that its not useful. Sci-hub is instant.

Re: Sci Hub repository torrents of scientific papers

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Post by kevingrahl »

DmenshunlAnlsis wrote: post #43
facetube wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Until the cops kick your door in on copyright infringement charges to "make an example" of someone. Don't think it can't happen.

In over twenty years of piracy, I’ve never actually met someone online who got something more than a pissy email from an ISP. It’s possible to be made an example of, but if you’re not profiting from the piracy it’s vanishingly unlikely. The only people I know of who got more than a token fine were involved in some other criminal enterprise besides just downloading something.

I can tell that you’re not from Germany or know anyone from here that pirates. There are special law firms (Waldorf Frommer comes to mind) specializing only on sending out cease and desist letters carrying fines of around 1.000€ per infringement (mostly movies and tv shows). ISP’s willingly hand over any customer data to those firms. Of course the only one benefiting from this is the law firms not the copyright holder who never sees any decent payout. Torrenting in Germany can get very expensive very fast if you don’t know what you’re doing. I got big folders full of letters from Waldorf Frommer & Co from before I learned about VPN’s and I still get the occasional letter when my VPN fails or I’m being stupid. They can/will freeze your bank accounts if you don’t pay, it’s no joke.

Re: Sci Hub repository torrents of scientific papers

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Post by ComodoHacker »

Kognito wrote: post #34
michaelbuckbee wrote: post #25

Not being in a scientific field, one of the previous times this came up I asked if any of the working scientists felt like SciHub had positively impacted their work: exposing them to more papers than they would have read, guiding them in different ways, etc. and the answer was a pretty overwhelming "ohmygodyes". From the outside, it's very difficult to see this as anything but a public good. It certainly seems like l…

As an undergraduate in the UK whose university doesn’t have the greatest subscription collection, Sci-Hub has literally enabled me to write my dissertation as there is no way I could have afforded the individual cost of the papers I’ve needed to reference. I can only imagine what it is like in poorer parts of the world in terms of access to subscriptions, or lack thereof.

Let me ask you a provocative question. When you build credibility in your field, will you be reviewing papers for free for open access journals?
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