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Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Post by greggarious »

NMDaniel wrote: post #34
greggarious wrote: post #18

I've been using KeepassXC (KeePass w/ macOS GUI elements) and enjoying it. It's a little simple (you just copy and paste the PW). It doesn't do fancy autofill but there's support for pretty much every OS. (I use Spideroak to sync the DB across devices)

KeepassXC does have a browser extension for Firefox & Chrome. I use Syncthing to sync it among devices, it's open source and fairly simple to use(compared to other DIY cloud apps)

> KeepassXC does have a browser extension for Firefox & Chrome.

Yeah, but IIRC it doesn't on iOS? I dunno, it hasn't been a big pain point.

My solution has to use the Firefox password manager for low value things (like Hacker News), and manually c/p for the higher value (bank, retirement account, etc).

(Maybe I'm overly paranoid but I don't like to put high value passwords into the cloud)

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Post by greggarious »

tajen wrote: post #43
greggarious wrote: post #18

I've been using KeepassXC (KeePass w/ macOS GUI elements) and enjoying it. It's a little simple (you just copy and paste the PW). It doesn't do fancy autofill but there's support for pretty much every OS. (I use Spideroak to sync the DB across devices)

Guys, why not Keychain, the default password manager of macOS?

> Guys, why not Keychain, the default password manager of macOS?

Because keepass files are cross platform. macOS, iOS, android and all the flavors of Linux support it.

I also strongly prefer having a locally stored password DB on the device rather than letting it sit in the cloud. (Even though I have an admittedly strong passphrase)

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Post by pfranz »

Mister_Snuggles wrote: post #141
makecheck wrote: post #103

There are at least two elements to software maintenance: one is adding truly new features, and the other is making stupid changes just to keep old features working as they always did (often due to platform or hardware changes, especially with Apple!). I see Apple coughing up none of the costs that they create by regularly fiddling with their platforms and hardware in breaking ways, yet that is a big reason why softwa…

> There are at least two elements to software maintenance: one is adding truly new features, and the other is making stupid changes just to keep old features working as they always did (often due to platform or hardware changes, especially with Apple!). I'm OK with the model that VMware is using, at least on the Mac. You buy version X, you have version X. Version X gets updates for some amount of time. Eventually, a…

I like that model, too, but at least for something like 1Password I can see two issues. You'll have people using older versions with possible security vulnerabilities. If you're using hosted passwords you have to deal with dealing with multiple versions of the client indefinitely (although, you'll probably have to deal with a bit of that anyway)

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Post by kobayashi »

shinratdr wrote: post #108
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #78

So remember when 1Password claimed it was superior to LastPass for only requiring you to pay a one-time fee and not storing all of your stuff in the cloud? Good times.

To be fair, it still does all that stuff. I get that these moves make people nervous, and rightfully so. But as it stands every version of 1Password in active development (not including maintenance mode): * Can be licensed standalone. * Supports local & Dropbox vaults. * Was released within the last year, actively supporting those features. The only feature they’ve actually killed off (by not baking into future clien…

Are you sure they’ve killed WLAN sync??

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Post by bpicolo »

akerl_ wrote: post #53
preek wrote: post #4

Good timing that I moved all my passwords from 1Password to Emacs and GPG one year ago. It’s a pity; I’ve been a very happy customer for a long time, had licenses for multiple machines and was happy enough to pay for the updates. But my data shall be my data, again. I’m not paying for an app that I regularly have to buy an upgrade for and which doesn’t give me the opportunity to hold my data locally after explicitly…

People keep bringing this up, and it feels like a major failure of Agilebits marketing approach. The subscription service changes the frequency at which you pay Agilebits; it does not mandate how you store your data. 1Password 7 continues to allow all the kinds of local/Dropbox/etc vaults that prior versions allowed. If somebody at Agilebits is reading this thread: look around at these comments. The lack of clear inf…

The local storage model is only really desirable for the more paranoid subset of software/IT folk, and those people have a lot more options than just 1password because they're technically savvy enough to work with open source solutions. Their actual target market is drastically larger than that subset of users.
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