I use Enpass.
$10 once for mobile devices, free everywhere else, can use Dropbox/iCloud/Google Drive for password storage, no need for any subscription whatsoever.
And it can seamlessly import 1Password databases.
Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store
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Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
So you want perpetual free updates? I think your expectations might be a tad unrealistic.
It should be built into the initial price. And perpetual is unrealistic, but 10 years is not. Microsoft provides 5 years of Mainstream Support and 5 years of Extended Support at no additional cost (cost is built into the initial license fee). Heck, I would more trust software that says 10 years of garunteed support rather than lifetime support. Too many companies fudge the meaning of "lifetime", and 10 years blows Go…
there's a huge difference between supporting the version that they sold you for a specific version of ios and writing a new version to work with future changes to ios (which they don't in any way control)
Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store
#113Can I use this space to ask how people actually use password managers on mobile? I got LastPass recently and put on it a good secure "correct horse battery staple"-type password. So now when I use accounts on my phone I have to type that password instead of my short, randomly generated, reused-all-the-time password. This means I'm more secure (no password reuse) but typing 30ish characters without error into my phone…
Yeah, it’s painful without biometrics. For my threat model I’m happy enough to use TouchID on Mac and FaceID on my iPhone to unlock, and then to type in on the occasional time I need to unlock it manually.
Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store
#114Both iOS and Mac App stores need options to allow developers to offer trials and paid upgrades.
Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store
#115Why are people so vehemently opposed to the 1PW cloud sync service? For unenrypted data, I completely understand this. And in general, it's great to have the option to sync using whatever service you want. But the data that 1PW stores is encrypted up the wazoo and AB couldn't extract your passwords from it even if they wanted to. In their security document they even outline how useless it would be for a bad actor to even steal every bit of data they have. And if some day their data center suddenly explodes and all that data is lost, your data is cached on all your devices anyway, and it's trivial to just export to another password manager.
Am I mistaken?
Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store
#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
So you want perpetual free updates? I think your expectations might be a tad unrealistic.
It should be built into the initial price. And perpetual is unrealistic, but 10 years is not. Microsoft provides 5 years of Mainstream Support and 5 years of Extended Support at no additional cost (cost is built into the initial license fee). Heck, I would more trust software that says 10 years of garunteed support rather than lifetime support. Too many companies fudge the meaning of "lifetime", and 10 years blows Go…
> Microsoft provides 5 years of Mainstream Support and 5 years of Extended Support at no additional cost (cost is built into the initial license fee).
For Windows perhaps, but they sell Office as a yearly subscription.
Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store
#117Can I use this space to ask how people actually use password managers on mobile? I got LastPass recently and put on it a good secure "correct horse battery staple"-type password. So now when I use accounts on my phone I have to type that password instead of my short, randomly generated, reused-all-the-time password. This means I'm more secure (no password reuse) but typing 30ish characters without error into my phone…
I use 1pass on my phone. I have a long password (English phrase) that I only use with 1pass I guess I've entered it enough times on mobile that I don't mistype it often.
I use it to generate new passwords for whatever signups/apps I need on mobile, also for logging into websites on mobile. The workflow for password managers in mobile safari works very well.
I don't enable FaceID/TouchID/PIN for 1Password, but I do have it enabled for my device.
Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store
#118I use Enpass. $10 once for mobile devices, free everywhere else, can use Dropbox/iCloud/Google Drive for password storage, no need for any subscription whatsoever. And it can seamlessly import 1Password databases.
Their approach is interesting; I currently use KeePassX and mobile was a huge pain. Thank you for posting about Enpass - going to try that out.
Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store
#119I really like 1Password, it has been my daily driver for years. The creators gifted me versions for macOS and iOS years ago, so I never had to pay for it - which I would have done happily and, in fact, just recently did. But the push to the cloud versions gives me headache. I don’t want to sync using their cloud - I actually sync using a WiFi server. While it’s (still) possible to obtain the standalone versions, it’s…
It's worth noting (and not super obvious because of their marketing) that "getting a subscription" and "using their cloud sync" are not a mutual requirement. You can pay via subscription and continue using local/Dropbox/etc vaults. This part was super confusing to me until I dug deeper when a friend upgraded. So the primary impact of switching from standalone license to subscription, if you're planning on using 1Pass…
> So the primary impact of switching from standalone license to subscription, if you're planning on using 1Password for a while, is that instead of paying a larger chunk of money every so often when they drop a new major version, you move to paying a flat couple bucks a month or larger chunk per year.
One thing that is not clear to me is what happens with the subscription license if you go a long time without internet access. With the standalone license, it checks the validity of the license when I enter it, and then I'm good as far as I've been able to tell forever more.
If I take a laptop with a 1Password subscription, fully validated and synced, and spend 6 months with no internet access, will 1Password continue working?
Remember, 1Password is often used for more than just internet passwords, so wanting to use it with no internet access is not unreasonable.
Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store
#120Although it's been said that they will continue supporting licenses through their website, they have made this feature _extremely_ difficult to find ever since introducing subscriptions. I've been a loyal user of 1Password for a long time, and I think it's great software. I use it on both my Macs, as well as on my iOS devices. However, hiding the non-subscription feature is silly. I do not wish to add yet another sub…
I feel the same way and I'm starting to look towards alternatives. Despite having bought (or had bought for me, at various jobs) somewhere between 10 and 15 individual licenses, 1Password won't ever get another dime from me after the way they've treated non-subscription customers. In addition to making it confusing to use my license, the command-line doesn't work at all without a subscription and now other software that integrates with 1Password is being made subscription only.
Like you, I would have happily done a paid upgrade to 1Password 7, but a subscription to access my passwords is a non-starter. And after having been made to feel like a second-class citizen for so long, they've burned any good will I had for them and I'm done buying anything from them.