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Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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While I could understand people being upset about this, I pay for a 1password family subscription. It really is a terrific investment. As far as subscription services go it's about the best bang for my buck that I get. A sustainable service model is important for something I rely on so much - especially something that needs to keep on security lockdown.

Also makes it easy for the family to share hulu, netflix, whatnot.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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post #26

I really like 1Password, it has been my daily driver for years. The creators gifted me versions for macOS and iOS years ago, so I never had to pay for it - which I would have done happily and, in fact, just recently did. But the push to the cloud versions gives me headache. I don’t want to sync using their cloud - I actually sync using a WiFi server. While it’s (still) possible to obtain the standalone versions, it’s…

It's worth noting (and not super obvious because of their marketing) that "getting a subscription" and "using their cloud sync" are not a mutual requirement. You can pay via subscription and continue using local/Dropbox/etc vaults.

This part was super confusing to me until I dug deeper when a friend upgraded.

So the primary impact of switching from standalone license to subscription, if you're planning on using 1Password for a while, is that instead of paying a larger chunk of money every so often when they drop a new major version, you move to paying a flat couple bucks a month or larger chunk per year.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

#43

I've been using KeepassXC (KeePass w/ macOS GUI elements) and enjoying it. It's a little simple (you just copy and paste the PW). It doesn't do fancy autofill but there's support for pretty much every OS. (I use Spideroak to sync the DB across devices)

Guys, why not Keychain, the default password manager of macOS?

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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post #3

…but they will still be selling individual non-subscription licenses through their own website, so anyone who wants to avoid a subscription can still do so.

Still, this is a trend I will have nothing to do with if at all possible. And besides subscriptions, version 7 will only sync using their back-end, which is not acceptable for me. On one hand, password managers in browsers are becoming nearly good enough to cover for 80% of my use cases, and most of the other 20% boil down to convenience (ease of pasting, updating, etc.) I don't like the idea of being forced to move…

I am using 1Password 7 right now and have several local vaults and several vaults that are synced via Dropbox, so I'm not sure what you mean.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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post #42
post #26

I really like 1Password, it has been my daily driver for years. The creators gifted me versions for macOS and iOS years ago, so I never had to pay for it - which I would have done happily and, in fact, just recently did. But the push to the cloud versions gives me headache. I don’t want to sync using their cloud - I actually sync using a WiFi server. While it’s (still) possible to obtain the standalone versions, it’s…

It's worth noting (and not super obvious because of their marketing) that "getting a subscription" and "using their cloud sync" are not a mutual requirement. You can pay via subscription and continue using local/Dropbox/etc vaults. This part was super confusing to me until I dug deeper when a friend upgraded. So the primary impact of switching from standalone license to subscription, if you're planning on using 1Pass…

Thanks for pointing that out, that was, indeed, not clear to me either. But I expect this will change at some point, for the sake of simplicity for end users. Giving up security for convenience.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can this be an issue if their base software is open source? Just recompile it with the numbers upped, surely?

Your passwords are stored on their server. You'd have to compile and run your own server, which is more expensive than the $1/month they're asking for.

> You'd have to compile and run your own server, which is more expensive than the $1/month they're asking for.

For people like me that already rent a VPS for their mail and website the marginal cost is $0 except for the time it would take for me to perform the installation and setup.

If the system is good and stable then the "cost" of the time that I would spend installing it on my server would be close to $0 when divided over the amount of time I use the software in the future.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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post #33

With all these subscription-only apps that are proliferating, I am curious how many enterprising app developers would be interested in making and marketing "cloudless" apps that rely on up-front high prices for revenue, but neverending free updates (mostly bug fixes, I would hope). With GDPR, this seems like it would be actually be easier to deliver. Of course growth numbers may suck, given how hard it is to make it…

> I'm myself thinking of making an app like this for budget tracking, just because I haven't found any out there these days that don't require neverending subscriptions and also fit my unique needs. Did you try GnuCash? It's not user friendly but a friend of mine swears by it. https://www.gnucash.org/

I heard there was a more user friendly FLOSS program called Homebank, though I've never used it myself.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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I did not pay for a subscription software, I bought a password manager which stored password locally. I also don't want to pay for a upgrade just because apple upgraded the OS. I now only buy mac software on Mac App Store. Apps which I have not renewed include 1password, screenflow, textmate, vmware Fusion, Paid Products I wish were on Mac App Store with free updates. Sublime, Paragon NTFS , printopia

But TextMate isn't a subscription, is it?

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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post #33

With all these subscription-only apps that are proliferating, I am curious how many enterprising app developers would be interested in making and marketing "cloudless" apps that rely on up-front high prices for revenue, but neverending free updates (mostly bug fixes, I would hope). With GDPR, this seems like it would be actually be easier to deliver. Of course growth numbers may suck, given how hard it is to make it…

This article is not about subscription only apps. 1password is available both as a standalone app and a subscription based one. But on the Apple app store they decided to offer only the subscription variant because of apples restrictions.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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post #33

With all these subscription-only apps that are proliferating, I am curious how many enterprising app developers would be interested in making and marketing "cloudless" apps that rely on up-front high prices for revenue, but neverending free updates (mostly bug fixes, I would hope). With GDPR, this seems like it would be actually be easier to deliver. Of course growth numbers may suck, given how hard it is to make it…

> I'm myself thinking of making an app like this for budget tracking, just because I haven't found any out there these days that don't require neverending subscriptions and also fit my unique needs. Did you try GnuCash? It's not user friendly but a friend of mine swears by it. https://www.gnucash.org/

This software is slow and a real pain to use for anything else than personal finances or the 12 bills a year you write as a contractor.
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