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Re: Apple Approves VLC For iPad

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The VLC application currently on the app store doesn't have ARM assembler optimisations enabled. Hopefully that will be fixed in an update. MPlayer on the N810 will be using some assembler optimisations. I strongly doubt the "all kinds of SD" claim, however. There is simply no way that CPU will be capable of decoding a typical SD H.264 video. MPEG2 or MPEG4-ASP may work if you're lucky.

Why would they release non-optimized? Fail fast? H.264 is probably hard indeed, but with right command line optimizations doable.

There was a mysterious problem when assembler optimisations were enabled. This was fixed a few minutes ago in FFmpeg.

As for H.264 on a 400MHz ARM11, no amount of command line options will magically make MPlayer manage full SD resolution. If the H264 decoder were fully optimised for ARMv6, it might get close for low-complexity videos, but hardly any such optimisations have been done. There is simply little point, as it would still be too slow in most cases.

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I would be really interested to know what triggered that massive policy change. (Not just VLC but also all the other stuff.) It came out of nowhere. No advance warning, no step by step relaxation, no big reveal. Fairly recently Steve Jobs defended Apple’s old App Store policy [+] – just imagine the hearts and minds Apple could have won if Jobs had announced their big policy change right then and added a big mea culpa…

I think it's just a byproduct of a maturing platform. Apple has nurtured the platform into a certain direction and more or less set a standard for what an iOS app is going to be. (look & feel, stability, security, etc) Now that users also have high expectations the App Store is probably starting to police itself to some degree. I'm guessing they reached a point where only 1-2% of apps had any approval issues so it's becoming more practical to switch to an innocent until proven guilty model.

Re: Apple Approves VLC For iPad

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I don't buy it ... on my iPhone I only have apps that have been approved prior to this change of policy, and the battery is piss-poor already. Having owned multiple lower-end Nokias + I currently also have one E71 + one N97 ... I kind of assumed the iPhone's battery can last for 2 days or even 3 if I'm only using it for phone calls. Phones like the iPhone / Motorola Droid ... are too powerful for their own good. If I…

Dude, you may not buy it all you want - I just watched hour worth of cartoons from YouTube with my daghter so I don't care.

using html 5 on your ipad ??? ;-) You don't need Flash to watch video on the web. The problem is that most flash content out there is designed for big screens and mouse interaction. Therefore the flash experience on mobile devices is far from optimal.

Re: Apple Approves VLC For iPad

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Will it have airplay support?

Apps using the built-in media controller views get AirPlay out for free. Apps that don’t (like Hulu) need to roll their own using AVFoundation. via http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/09/17/weintraub-airpla...

Just guessing but I'd assume that only applies to the standard set of Apple approved codecs.

Re: Apple Approves VLC For iPad

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Isn't VLC GPL? I thought the AppStore was not compatible with the GPL.

Disclaimer: VLC dev and VideoLAN Chairman

Truth be told, it is a grey area. The AppStore is clearly not compatible with the GPLv3. About the GPLv2 it is more complex, because what matters is if the AppStore terms are stronger than the Application License. And noone except a judge can tell...

Therefore, we release on our website, videolan.org, both the source and the binary so that the GPL spirit is kept intact. People can modify their VLC, patch it, modify it and put on their iOS devices as they wish.

Re: Apple Approves VLC For iPad

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So just tried this with divx episodes of mad men, The software was great and syncing files from itunes was a breeze(Same interface as syncing files with pages and keynote). The video itself though was pretty choppy. Not sure how it will work for other filetypes but not super impressed, but I imagine it would be hard to do any better with similar hardware. Kind of really lets you see the value of apples H.264 hardware…

Disclaimer: VLC dev here

This is the first version of VLC on iOS and it isn't the best yet, especially for performances... The important was to put one version of VLC out on the AppStore and iterate quickly small updates and fixes... (you should understand this way of thinking, being on HN ;-) )

It will get better and faster.

Re: Apple Approves VLC For iPad

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Yay Microsoft for allowing those on Windows! Yay Google for allowing it on Android! Yay Canonical for allowing it on Ubuntu!

You forgot "Yay Apple for allowing it on OSX" Also, can't wait to use VLC on Windows Phone 7!

One of the only platform noone is working on from the VLC dev team is WinMo7. Some people are working on Android, some on Maemo, some on WinMo6, but noone on WinMo7 since it requires .Net and C#

Re: Apple Approves VLC For iPad

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Is there a reason there isn't an iPhone version?

Disclaimer: VLC dev here

Yes, a very simple one... Someone needs to patch the interface to scale nicely on the iPhone :D

You have to understand that we are volunteers working on our free time. People work on what they want/care/need, not based on external thoughts (no market research, no marketing, no boss orders... just fun)

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