I tested :terminal but I still prefer my tmux + vim config (seems more productive). But, I have to say that for ssh connections this will be really useful.
Vim 8.1
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Re: Vim 8.1
#52Man I wish I could switch back to Vim. GUI frontends for Neovim has made me want Vim so bad, but I just can't get away from Kakoune. The model of select first, action after (reverse of vim) is so so much better for me. Kakoune just gives me so much clarity over I'm doing at any one time. I guessed too frequently in vim :/.
> The model of select first, action after (reverse of vim) is so so much better for me. You mean, like the visual modes in Vim? Where you select text before running a command on it?
Re: Vim 8.1
#53Man I wish I could switch back to Vim. GUI frontends for Neovim has made me want Vim so bad, but I just can't get away from Kakoune. The model of select first, action after (reverse of vim) is so so much better for me. Kakoune just gives me so much clarity over I'm doing at any one time. I guessed too frequently in vim :/.
> The model of select first, action after (reverse of vim) is so so much better for me. You mean, like the visual modes in Vim? Where you select text before running a command on it?
Re: Vim 8.1
#54I want to learn Vim and tried several times (with vim modes form Intellij mainly) but failed under pressure to get actual things done. I see great potential and I know I have to sacrifice 1-2 month of productivity to get up to speed but I fail every time.
Have you tried to switch for a while to a laptop with no mouse, a terrible trackpad that hardly ever works, and painful to use and/or broken Home/End/Page Up/Page Down and Arrow keys? It's partly a joke, but it is the "rip off the bandaid" style way to learn Vim. On a system like that you pretty much either learn Vim or perish. I had a Dell laptop like that in grad school which is where I probably used Vim the most c…
It took my brain a while to stop reaching for them but eventually it worked. To this day I naturally shy away from them although I've overcome that somewhat when it comes to using the numeric keypad.
It's kinda of similar to the Right Menu key in Windows. I hit Shift-F10 for so long I never got used to this new key and used it.
Re: Vim 8.1
#55prank your friends: echo 'imap there is no escape ' >> ~/.vimrc
Re: Vim 8.1
#56I want to learn Vim and tried several times (with vim modes form Intellij mainly) but failed under pressure to get actual things done. I see great potential and I know I have to sacrifice 1-2 month of productivity to get up to speed but I fail every time.
I've been a heavy Vim user for 20 years, and I hear people say this all the time. Recent converts especially love to write breathless blog posts exalting Vim's editing model as the One True Way, but the truth is that if your editing speed is the bottleneck for your productivity, you must surely be some kind of software engineering deity. There's absolutely no shame in sticking with a model that works for you if you'r…
The only time my progress is hindered (im still not amazing in Vim) is during debugging, which is why I'm pretty excited about this update.
Re: Vim 8.1
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
Use real vim, not emulators. Emulators all suck, and won't teach you the right habits. Vim is also extremely powerful when customized to your needs. Build your own setup over time. Start with vanilla vim and add to it over time. If anything annoys you and requires too much manual repetition, it can probably be automated and streamlined. Force yourself to use Vim for everything, and soon enough it'll be second nature.…
Nah. Vim bindings in VS Code are the sweet spot for me. Some of the Vim emulation isn't perfect but having something like 99% of Vim is plenty plus I get my preferred layout, debugging tools, etc.
Re: Vim 8.1
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've been a heavy Vim user for 20 years, and I hear people say this all the time. Recent converts especially love to write breathless blog posts exalting Vim's editing model as the One True Way, but the truth is that if your editing speed is the bottleneck for your productivity, you must surely be some kind of software engineering deity. There's absolutely no shame in sticking with a model that works for you if you'r…
Completely agree. Use whatever you're comfortable with. No one should feel any shame for not using VIM/Emacs. But with that said, I feel like once you are comfortable with these tools, it's a more pleasurable experience.
Re: Vim 8.1
#59prank your friends: echo 'imap there is no escape ' >> ~/.vimrc
(And I actually use it in Termux)
Re: Vim 8.1
#60I want to learn Vim and tried several times (with vim modes form Intellij mainly) but failed under pressure to get actual things done. I see great potential and I know I have to sacrifice 1-2 month of productivity to get up to speed but I fail every time.
I think you can successfully migrate to vim modes by using less than optimal vim habits initially. I don't think anyone is going to go through the entire action list and instinctively remember all of them, and be able to use them at a moments notice. As an example, my transition was something like this: I'd use a vim plugin, and use say 5- 7 basic actions + movements like `cw`, `c$` `i`, and keep it limited to that f…