Jürgen Schmidhuber says he’ll make machines smarter than us
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Re: Jürgen Schmidhuber says he’ll make machines smarter than us
#2I'd never heard of him, but certainly I'd heard of his LSTM network. Mostly I've learned about the well know members of the AI community through Andrew Ng's interviews with them in his coursera courses. Jürgen Schmidhuber is a notable absentee (but I haven't done all the courses yet).
Plus the company he works for Nnaisense was the NIPS 2017 winner for the 'Reinforcement learning with musculoskeletal models' mentioned yesterday here on HN [0].
Re: Jürgen Schmidhuber says he’ll make machines smarter than us
#3A related article by the same author (Ashlee Vance) two days later:
Apple and Its Rivals Bet Their Futures on These Men’s Dreams – An oral history of artificial intelligence, as told by its godfathers, gadflies, and Justin Trudeau.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-05-17/apple-and...
Re: Jürgen Schmidhuber says he’ll make machines smarter than us
#4To cut through some of the drama that risks being amplified by profiles like this, here are Schmidhuber's [1] and Goodfellow's [2] papers, plus the NIPS reviews [3] that recognized the linkage (not equivalence) between the two.
This is the review process working as it should: helping situate work in a longer dialog so that readers can follow a chain of reasoning. Much of the rest of the drama discussed in this article is about allocating the celebrity that manifests when a technique suddenly becomes useful, through some combination of changes to the environment, theoretical improvements and reduction to practice. It's a very human concern, but it's more business (or politics) than science.
[1] ftp://ftp.idsia.ch/pub/juergen/factorial.pdf [2] http://papers.nips.cc/paper/5423-generative-adversarial-nets... [3] http://media.nips.cc/nipsbooks/nipspapers/paper_files/nips27...
Re: Jürgen Schmidhuber says he’ll make machines smarter than us
#5From the headline, I knew it would be about Schmidhuber. Isn't this shtick getting a little old? I don't see how he is being suppressed, when I see him give talks and lead symposiums at conferences all the time ...
> The most prestigious AI conference goes by the unfortunate acronym of NIPS, or Neural Information Processing Systems.
The name is likely getting changed this year.
Re: Jürgen Schmidhuber says he’ll make machines smarter than us
#6I'd never heard of him, but certainly I'd heard of his LSTM network. Mostly I've learned about the well know members of the AI community through Andrew Ng's interviews with them in his coursera courses. Jürgen Schmidhuber is a notable absentee (but I haven't done all the courses yet). Plus the company he works for Nnaisense was the NIPS 2017 winner for the 'Reinforcement learning with musculoskeletal models' mentione…
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Re: Jürgen Schmidhuber says he’ll make machines smarter than us
#7Schmidhuber sounds like the Nassim Nicholas Taleb of neural networks. Good ideas, complicated personality.
Re: Jürgen Schmidhuber says he’ll make machines smarter than us
#8A related article by the same author (Ashlee Vance) two days later: Apple and Its Rivals Bet Their Futures on These Men’s Dreams – An oral history of artificial intelligence, as told by its godfathers, gadflies, and Justin Trudeau. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-05-17/apple-and...
When LeCun only speculates on when the next advances (5-15 years) will come and thinks that it will "take decades" to build systems on what we have... I understand why "His (Schmidhuber's) peers wish he’d just shut up."
Re: Jürgen Schmidhuber says he’ll make machines smarter than us
#9From the headline, I knew it would be about Schmidhuber. Isn't this shtick getting a little old? I don't see how he is being suppressed, when I see him give talks and lead symposiums at conferences all the time ... > The most prestigious AI conference goes by the unfortunate acronym of NIPS, or Neural Information Processing Systems. The name is likely getting changed this year.
To PNIS ?
Re: Jürgen Schmidhuber says he’ll make machines smarter than us
#10Schmidhuber sounds like the Nassim Nicholas Taleb of neural networks. Good ideas, complicated personality.
add Stephen Wolfram and Gregory Chaitin to the list.