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Down with fun: The depressing vogue for having fun at work

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Re: Down with fun: The depressing vogue for having fun at work

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This reminds me of a group of roommates I had in college. They played Super Smash Brothers: Melee for the Nintendo Game Cube perpetually. They played the same level--a flat level without platforms or items--over and over again for one reason--to get better. They had little interest in having fun and cared more about being the best. One of our other roommates suggested that they play the game to have fun. They liked t…

Some people find fun in competition and improving their skills.

Re: Down with fun: The depressing vogue for having fun at work

#52

I think I may have worked at the most "fun" corporate environment ever. The parties! The BBQ! The evenings on the roof top deck in Tribeca! The pillow room! The Wii! The wall-o'-drinks! The buddha statues! The one-team-cooks-a-full-lunch day once a month! The expeditions to South's! That one guy who was always napping in the weirdest places trying to be polyphasic! The singing, the dancing and the hilarious coworkers…

Sounds like a happening place to work. Too bad their main line of business was aiding and abetting the theft of copyrighted material.

Re: Down with fun: The depressing vogue for having fun at work

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I have seen drinking lunch and pretty blatant sexual harassment in the work place. (Drunk boss chases female subordinate around the room; bosses sleep with secretaries; computer operator consumes 5 mixed drinks at a company party, then bollixes an upgrade.) So the old-timey fun as The Economist seems to define it is something I don't much miss.

Re: Down with fun: The depressing vogue for having fun at work

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post #35

This article tries to say that fake-fun at offices should be banned, but what it actually says is that what modern companies do for fun isn't their idea of fun (their idea of fun seems to involve smoking and drinking and sexually harrassing co-workers). Believe it or not, Googlers love the ball pits and the massages, and Twitter peeps are very appreciative of the HR people whose job it is to make sure everyone's happ…

I think there's something classy and fun about sitting at your desk alone, smoking half a pack a day, and drinking vodka out of a plastic cup.

Re: Down with fun: The depressing vogue for having fun at work

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post #52

I think I may have worked at the most "fun" corporate environment ever. The parties! The BBQ! The evenings on the roof top deck in Tribeca! The pillow room! The Wii! The wall-o'-drinks! The buddha statues! The one-team-cooks-a-full-lunch day once a month! The expeditions to South's! That one guy who was always napping in the weirdest places trying to be polyphasic! The singing, the dancing and the hilarious coworkers…

Sounds like a happening place to work. Too bad their main line of business was aiding and abetting the theft of copyrighted material .

Guess where I worked after that? Bear Stearns! rimshot

(but only as a freelancer)

Coming from a state where all the rich people are employed in fields that involve blowing up innocent people with bombs, I rest easy.

Re: Down with fun: The depressing vogue for having fun at work

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post #35

This article tries to say that fake-fun at offices should be banned, but what it actually says is that what modern companies do for fun isn't their idea of fun (their idea of fun seems to involve smoking and drinking and sexually harrassing co-workers). Believe it or not, Googlers love the ball pits and the massages, and Twitter peeps are very appreciative of the HR people whose job it is to make sure everyone's happ…

> involve smoking and drinking and sexually harrassing co-workers

I read it as trusting your employees to behave like adults ... like not to get drunk, and to let them engage in harmless flirting or even dating. A wink is not sexual harassment, a joke about sex (even if a little brutal) is not sexual harassment.

Also, people have their own habits / vices ... if you've got smokers in your company, provide a place were they can smoke. I mean, you've got money for masseuses, can't you find 10 spare square meters with air conditioning?

What's wrong with that?

Instead of having a "fun department", just let people be who they are.

Re: Down with fun: The depressing vogue for having fun at work

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post #41
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good points. It does make me wonder, though, what would happen if everyone simply began refusing to do meaningless work. Would the world grind to a halt? I doubt it. I bet we'd eventually figure out how to reorganize things.

You have a revolution brewing there, brother. I'll add to that: what if people would just stop sugarcoating everything & tell what they really think.

You know, there's a wonderful line from the Gospel of Thomas (one of the Gnostic texts which were originally rejected by the church and then dug out of the desert 60 years ago) in which Jesus' disciples ask him, "What must we do to be saved?" and he answers "Do not tell lies and do not do what you hate."

Re: Down with fun: The depressing vogue for having fun at work

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Of course there is a line to walk between a couple of beer and the three martini lunch. That is true for productivity but what about your health? I like drinking as much as the next guy but drinking a couple of beers every day, at work, just to "relax" and "focus better" seems like a bad tactic.

Really? Almost everything I have read indicates that moderate consumption of alcohol (both beer and wine, dunno about spirits) has positive health effects. Heart disease, brain function, blood pressure, etc. all seem to benefit.

You seem to have been downvoted for expressing a true opinion[1]. I'm confused. Perhaps it's because it was in response to a differing opinion, and unsourced; but that seems like a disingenuous double standard when the equally unsourced and completely wrong parent was upvoted.

[1] http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/HealthIssues/1106591095.htm...

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