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> After the first few minutes both VR and non-VR games are the same Again proving the point that VR has no actual use case.
Sorry to break it to you but many games (like first person shooters) currently have no depth perception and would be greatly enhanced by it. Literally every 3D game you play today can and will be enhanced in VR because of this reason.
From a couple decades of gaming experience, you don't need much more than eyeballs, fingers and a little bit of forearm. I am convinced people who talk about immersion in VR have never been addicted to any game. It doesn't take that much to lose yourself inside of one. After the first few minutes both VR and non-VR games are the same once you're fluent with the controls.
Feet help. Feet & legs help a lot. FEAR is a game that really underscored this to me - and every game I see it in afterwards just adds evidence for it. Required? No. But adds to immersion a LOT.
Given that you had to enter pin codes by setting the hand to pointing mode and move around with the mouse, i wonder how it would translate to a VR experience today.
From a couple decades of gaming experience, you don't need much more than eyeballs, fingers and a little bit of forearm. I am convinced people who talk about immersion in VR have never been addicted to any game. It doesn't take that much to lose yourself inside of one. After the first few minutes both VR and non-VR games are the same once you're fluent with the controls.
> After the first few minutes both VR and non-VR games are the same Again proving the point that VR has no actual use case.
I think its more important for the body parts that are there to move correctly than to have them visible and not match. I remember trying a vive game that had arms but sometimes they would contort into impossible poses and it was extremely jarring. Having spent many hours in both vive and rift, while I prefer vive in general, the visible hands on the touch controllers on rift is just fantastic.
I think its more important for the body parts that are there to move correctly than to have them visible and not match. A laser-hatchet hand and a disembodied floating mecha-claw that respond snappily are ultimately more real than a "realistic" arm that moves like a cartoon.
From a couple decades of gaming experience, you don't need much more than eyeballs, fingers and a little bit of forearm. I am convinced people who talk about immersion in VR have never been addicted to any game. It doesn't take that much to lose yourself inside of one. After the first few minutes both VR and non-VR games are the same once you're fluent with the controls.
> After the first few minutes both VR and non-VR games are the same Again proving the point that VR has no actual use case.
I think its more important for the body parts that are there to move correctly than to have them visible and not match. I remember trying a vive game that had arms but sometimes they would contort into impossible poses and it was extremely jarring. Having spent many hours in both vive and rift, while I prefer vive in general, the visible hands on the touch controllers on rift is just fantastic.
For yourself you do not want to show body parts that cannot be tracked correctly because of the jarring effect of the mismatch, as you say. But for showing other people you can get away with more, so for example you can show full arms even if the elbows are not exactly in the right place (as long as they are not unphysical of course.)
From a couple decades of gaming experience, you don't need much more than eyeballs, fingers and a little bit of forearm. I am convinced people who talk about immersion in VR have never been addicted to any game. It doesn't take that much to lose yourself inside of one. After the first few minutes both VR and non-VR games are the same once you're fluent with the controls.
> After the first few minutes both VR and non-VR games are the same Again proving the point that VR has no actual use case.
So VR is definitely not pointless. Motion tracking for your head/arms/feet unlock many applications that are previously hard or impossible (e.g., 3D sculpting using mouse/tablet vs a motion controller).
But it's not always better than mouse/keyboard input for let's say typing or shooting a target. Having more irrelevant degrees of freedom makes it harder to master your input controllers, even if you already had a lifetime of practice with it in the real world (e.g., I am okay with doing parkour levels of movement with WASD/Space but won't ever try it with my real limbs even though in theory I know how to climb over a real world fence).
In deep trance states, the body progressively fades away and you perceive what would ordinarily feel like body sensations as other things, as the mind loses its frame of reference to cause and effect. All experience thus gets created by mind. I imagine with practice anything is possible regarding VR. The mind can make anything believable if you just relax and let it happen.
I am learning VR Development in my free time just to explore this. I want to make a VR guided meditation program, to help beginning mediators reach deeper states than they would normally be able to.
I think its more important for the body parts that are there to move correctly than to have them visible and not match. I remember trying a vive game that had arms but sometimes they would contort into impossible poses and it was extremely jarring. Having spent many hours in both vive and rift, while I prefer vive in general, the visible hands on the touch controllers on rift is just fantastic.
> I remember trying a vive game that had arms but sometimes they would contort into impossible poses and it was extremely jarring [.....] the visible hands on the touch controllers on rift is just fantastic.
Neither of the things mentioned here are specific to Vive or Rift.
A Rift game can give you arms that contort into impossible poses, just like a Vive game can give you visible hands. It's just software and whatever the author of whatever game you're playing decided to do.
Did you play a game worked in both Vive and Rift, and the versions were different or something?
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I think its more important for the body parts that are there to move correctly than to have them visible and not match. A laser-hatchet hand and a disembodied floating mecha-claw that respond snappily are ultimately more real than a "realistic" arm that moves like a cartoon.
BTW. I recall an experiment that found that to get someone to associate a virtual hand with their real one, the researchers had to prick the real hand at the same time as the person see the virtual hand getting a prick.