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UK newsagents to sell ‘porn passes’ to visit X-rated websites

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Can someone explain to me, what exactly is wrong with the UK? Where did it all go so wrong?

England never saw any serious revolution or uprising since the Kingdom of England was founded about 1000 years ago (Scotts and Irish are different)

Oliver Cromwell would like a word: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Civil_War

(There have been plenty of other revolutions and uprisings, though most were either elite coups or unsuccessful).

Re: UK newsagents to sell ‘porn passes’ to visit X-rated websites

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So do we now look forward to teenagers hanging around newsagents asking people to get them a porn pass along with the beer and fags?

No they'll have to make do with the thousands of sites outside the small group of blocked sites.

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Hah. If you want to raise a generation of people capable of hiding their online activity more effectively trying to get between a teenager and smut is basically the way to do it. I'm pretty sure that VPN's and Tor will explode in popularity if they ever manage to enforce this in any way beyond the most silly methods. Also hello escalating arms race.

Maybe someone could also turn them onto voting.

And thus the porn star party came to rule Britain for the next hundred years.

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Because it's an incredibly stupid claim that firearms would somehow improve the situation? I mean, we had a live-fire slow-burn civil war in the UK for decades (1970s-2000). It didn't help.

Knowing that if you abuse people enough eventually you'll run into someone who shoots back is a massive check on abuse of power. Checking abuse of government's power to enforce its will with violence makes it much more likely to be careful deciding what it's will is. It gives the slippery slope some friction if the will of the government strays too far from that of the people. I don't see it being applicable in the c…

I'm going to go out on a limb and say the United States has at various stages of their history introduced rather more onerous violations of civil rights than "porn passes" without so much as a whimper of opposition from gun owners..

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hah. If you want to raise a generation of people capable of hiding their online activity more effectively trying to get between a teenager and smut is basically the way to do it. I'm pretty sure that VPN's and Tor will explode in popularity if they ever manage to enforce this in any way beyond the most silly methods. Also hello escalating arms race.

>I'm pretty sure that VPN's and Tor will explode in popularity if they ever manage to enforce this in any way beyond the most silly methods. VPNs do next to nothing and require a credit card. Tor will definitely benefit from this however.

-A suitable VPN will make it appear that you are in a country with more enlightened censorship laws than the UK.

I can hardly see say, SwissVPN adapting the block list for customers whose traffic originates in the UK.

The upside of this whole debacle is that the UK government have finally created a strong incentive for the UK population to educate themselves on online privacy and censorship evasion; the EFF should send Theresa May a (snarky!) thank you-note.

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Knowing that if you abuse people enough eventually you'll run into someone who shoots back is a massive check on abuse of power. Checking abuse of government's power to enforce its will with violence makes it much more likely to be careful deciding what it's will is. It gives the slippery slope some friction if the will of the government strays too far from that of the people. I don't see it being applicable in the c…

There were recent examples of this in the US: armed confrontations with government in which the civilians were branded as unstable extremists. The stand-off led to a court case in which it turns out that yes, the government had been in the wrong the whole time. I think the gun control debate is interesting for a different reason than guns-preventing-tyranny, though: in the UK you see the police tweeting to brag about…

I see nobody's willing to engage with the actual Armalite vs government shooting war that happened in the UK.

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Knowing that if you abuse people enough eventually you'll run into someone who shoots back is a massive check on abuse of power. Checking abuse of government's power to enforce its will with violence makes it much more likely to be careful deciding what it's will is. It gives the slippery slope some friction if the will of the government strays too far from that of the people. I don't see it being applicable in the c…

I think in the modern era, a movement to curtail Government power in the United States would be better served by refusing to pay taxes than military action.

An even simpler and more effective solution would be to just stop voting for authoritarians. I don't think anything has served as a more consistent death knell for an American politician than being branded "soft on crime".

Re: UK newsagents to sell ‘porn passes’ to visit X-rated websites

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Who decides what is or isn't an X-rated website? Are the authorities going to block tumblr or twitter because of all the porn on there? If not then what is the purpose of this law? How are websites going to get blocked? DNS filtering? Asking the sites operators to block all traffic from the UK by default?

Interesting point. Issuu.com do online magazines, mostly the usual fashion/motoring/sport/and so on, but there is some stuff on Issuu that stretches racy a little thin.
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