I think it's been clear for quite some time that "college for everyone" is not worth it, at all.
College May Not Be Worth It Anymore
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#22If they just had to rely on the free market, colleges would have closed a long time ago.
They can't improve anymore because they don't get any signal they're doing a good job. If I'm doing a good job, I know because people will pay me or I win (cold)battles in war. Instead in these peaceful times, colleges don't have a way of knowing for sure they're doing good, except with self-congratulations and educational theories.
At the same time, I think if it wasn't for State licenses, regulations that force to have a degree and a culture that discriminate against people without a state-supported college degree, we would see no advantages for the college degree holder, at least with current colleges.
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#24This massively misrepresents Tim Bartik's work on the topic. Bartik wrote a long thread here:Check out @TimBartik’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/TimBartik/status/996865804179263489?s=09
Reading the article I thought to myself that it’s a crappy piece that oversimplifies the complex landscape and tries to draw sensationalist conclusions... but after reading the Tweeter thread by the very scientist who’s work is cited, the article looks intentionally false and a retraction worthy.
Instead of saying that college is not worth it, why don’t we do MORE to make it free?
Even if people don’t end up using their knowledge fully, simply giving them the opportunity to have that knowledge may enrich their lives. There aren’t social downsides to free education (so long as it’s not censored).
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#25If you get an education with the sole purpose of generating higher net earnings you deserve to lose money.
For most people it should hopefully be: "I want to be a lawyer, so I go to law school", or "I am interested in engineering so I study engineering" - you study because you need the degree to get the job you want.
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#26The article takes an exclusively financial look at 'worth it' and completely ignores both education and human connection as an aspect of going to college. I get that the author is writing about money and money alone, but the headline is deceptive. Additionally, I do understand that a lot of people go to college for the purposes of getting a job. But that's not all college is, and pretending that the only reason anyon…
I am a software developer with a Fine Arts major from a small liberal arts college. I am immensely grateful for my liberal arts background. Without it, I think I would be going through life a bit blind.
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#27The NYTimes republishes a variant of this articles almost every month https://www.google.com/search?q=site:nytimes.com+college+wor... The usual answer is "it depends"
It depends on how you spend that time. Studing hard pays off, slacking off - not.
This should be a common knowledge. It more or less boils down to this and not status or race...
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#28I assert the expense of college is an awful burden to put on someone who must finance most of it through debt. It's a gamble. You can improve your odds of a happy outcome in that gamble by looking at the Student Loan Default Rate for any given major at any given college, and picking the best program for you (with the lowest default rate possible.) But if you are a child of parents who can finance your college? Absolu…
If somebody is passionate about art history, then they should get a degree in art history regardless of job prospects. You are limiting their ability to get the education they want.
Now I will agree that somebody getting an art history type degree shouldn't be taking loans to get it, they should be paying for it out of their pocket. However we should not limit somebody from pursuing their interests just because their interests are not valuable to society.
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#29The issue isn't that college is pointless, it's that tuition is too high and wages too low. You should support politicians with a plan to counter this trend. Education is important. Raising the overall level of education in this country should be a much larger goal that it seems to be.
Agree - I think we should consider a well educated base of voters, workers, and neighbors as critical infrastucture along with roads and internet.
I think some decisions lately have highlighted an open hostility towards science, education, and by implication, democracy. This needs to be reversed.
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#30Clearly the author never went to the University of Miami.