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As usual, just a few privileged European countries. Looking forward for an EU wide law to force lazy US companies to either offer the service to everyone or not at all.

So when this is released in your country, you'll be a paying subscriber?

I might, but I surely won't be one if the service isn't available at all.

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They are following in the footsteps of the movie industry, which also provides worse experience to the paying customer. Pay for movie theater ticket, get served 30+ minutes of ads. (edit) Pay for DVD, get unskippable "antipiracy ads". Torrent the movie, and you'll be watching the movie in under 3 minutes of download.

Not just that--quality too. Enjoying your 4K computer screen? And you're paying for the highest-tier Netflix subscription to get 4K content? Well, unless you're using Microsoft Edge, you're capped at 720. https://help.netflix.com/en/node/13444

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Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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YouTube is the only service I've used that gets WORSE if you pay. Without paying I can watch one video on my TV while browsing other videos on my laptop to queue up. With paying as soon as look up a video on my laptop I get an error on the tv "only one device allowed"

They are following in the footsteps of the movie industry, which also provides worse experience to the paying customer. Pay for movie theater ticket, get served 30+ minutes of ads. (edit) Pay for DVD, get unskippable "antipiracy ads". Torrent the movie, and you'll be watching the movie in under 3 minutes of download.

> Pay for movie theater ticket, get served 30+ minutes of ads.

Man, you aren’t kidding. I’m a spoiled Seattleite who can walk to two IMAX theaters attached to a non-profit science center, Paul Allen’s Cinerama, and an indie theater. I had the experience of going to a big name multiplex theater in another city recently, and I just had to shake my head at how awful the experience was for how much it cost.

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Well we're at 4 or 4.5 now. 1. YouTube 1.5 YT Music (basically a music-oriented front-end to YouTube) 2. Google Play Music All-Access 3. YouTube Music Premium (from the article) 4. (or 3.5) VEVO I particularly enjoyed this quote: > The days of jumping back and forth between multiple music apps and YouTube are over. As the above list shows, this is demonstrably false. Given that YouTube Red (or YouTube Premium as they…

It's comical. Google needs some PMs/POs/management who can reign in all the obvious internal politics. Google could own the streaming market if they could just build a coherent product, instead we get what you listed out.

Google needs less of so called product-"leadership" (like PMs and management) who are usually drivers of the aforementioned politics. The engineers need to have control to actually let engineering and metrics drive these decisions.

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post #77

YouTube is the only service I've used that gets WORSE if you pay. Without paying I can watch one video on my TV while browsing other videos on my laptop to queue up. With paying as soon as look up a video on my laptop I get an error on the tv "only one device allowed"

They are following in the footsteps of the movie industry, which also provides worse experience to the paying customer. Pay for movie theater ticket, get served 30+ minutes of ads. (edit) Pay for DVD, get unskippable "antipiracy ads". Torrent the movie, and you'll be watching the movie in under 3 minutes of download.

Not to mention the increase of product placement in movies these days too!

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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post #237

YouTube is the only service I've used that gets WORSE if you pay. Without paying I can watch one video on my TV while browsing other videos on my laptop to queue up. With paying as soon as look up a video on my laptop I get an error on the tv "only one device allowed"

They also have the worst Apple TV experience (unless I'm an idiot) where you can't queue anything. Their phone app plus a chromecast lets me load up a ton of videos to watch, I can't for the life of me figure out how to queue things using just the Apple TV however.

Just as an fyi, with an iPhone at least, you can get this same behavior of queuing with the apple tv youtube app + iOS youtube app. Not sure if this functionality is available with android, as the apple tv shows up as a cast option.

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are following in the footsteps of the movie industry, which also provides worse experience to the paying customer. Pay for movie theater ticket, get served 30+ minutes of ads. (edit) Pay for DVD, get unskippable "antipiracy ads". Torrent the movie, and you'll be watching the movie in under 3 minutes of download.

Not just that--quality too. Enjoying your 4K computer screen? And you're paying for the highest-tier Netflix subscription to get 4K content? Well, unless you're using Microsoft Edge, you're capped at 720. https://help.netflix.com/en/node/13444

Plus streaming through the browser is always going to be an inferior experience compared to playing BD rips in a dedicated media player. mpc-hc + madvr simply does things no browser is doing, i.e. outputting 10bit HDR to compatible displays and doing color profile conversion to match your screen calibration. Not to mention framerate adjustments so your playback is judder-free.

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Google operates under the assumption that they're making a "free market": they have a ton of services, some competing directly, and in the end a winner emerges and snuffs everyone else out. I guess someone should tell them about the paradox of choice, branch dilution and the fact that despite Google being big, they're not an entire market unto themselves. Google: make 1 big, single, integrated service and when a star…

I’ve heard this meme repeated before, but is there any example of when it actually worked for them? Is there a single google product that was originally one of many internally and is now the market leader? I can only think of counter examples... everywhere google spreads too thin they lose market share to competitors. Messaging is the prime example.

Maybe it happens behind the scenes. If they have several engineering teams working on different data mining algorithms, the user is not going to notice the paradox of choice, the brand dilution and so on, because it's an internal product.

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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YouTube is the only service I've used that gets WORSE if you pay. Without paying I can watch one video on my TV while browsing other videos on my laptop to queue up. With paying as soon as look up a video on my laptop I get an error on the tv "only one device allowed"

I disagree. My YouTube experience greatly improved with red.

No more ads. Ability to download videos for a long commute / plane ride.

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