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Re: Subways of the world, to scale

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Post by buster »

omh wrote: post #35
buster wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, out of two days i've visited London i had the pleasure to walk one station (and because of the elevator being overrun by people, i took the stairs.. the thing i've learned was that the London underground can be quite deep in the ground, it felt like kilometers :P ).

Taking the stairs is a mistake you only make once :) There's a very strongly worded sign at Covent Garden station, telling people that it really is faster to wait for a lift. But I often see tourists making their way up the stairs.

Haha, yes. I've seen such a sign ("Emergency stairs, don't use!") but well.. it was soo crowded and so many people took the stairs i thought it may be a good idea (at first) :)

Re: Subways of the world, to scale

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Post by mitjak »

I'm surprised the pathetic Toronto TTC subway made its way to the list. For a city of its size it could really enjoy a more intricate subway system. There are buses and trams here indeed but they get stuck the traffic just like every other vehicle during the rush hour.

Re: Subways of the world, to scale

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Post by Vivtek »

pmjordan wrote: post #23
limmeau wrote: post #2

Including the S-Bahn of Berlin but not the RER of Paris or the S-Bahn of Munich looks like an arbitrary decision. Yes, I know the shapes of the pantographs differ, but that's not relevant to me at that scale.

Yep, the Vienna map only includes the U-Bahn, not the S-Bahn, even though some of the tracks of both U-Bahn and S-Bahn were built for the "Stadtbahn". (e.g. U4, U6, S45) But then the U2 used to be a tram line, so it's difficult to draw the line.

Same for Budapest - Metro only, but not the HÉV, which is the equivalent of Berlin's S-Bahn, more or less (suburban light rail), some of whose lines run entirely within the boundaries of the city proper.

Re: Subways of the world, to scale

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Post by truebosko »

mitjak wrote: post #42

I'm surprised the pathetic Toronto TTC subway made its way to the list. For a city of its size it could really enjoy a more intricate subway system. There are buses and trams here indeed but they get stuck the traffic just like every other vehicle during the rush hour.

Toronto has a few additional forms of transport and many people do not even use the Subway on a daily basis thanks to those.

- Streetcars run all along downtown. Yup, they get stuck in traffic too but we have two streetcars running on dedicated lines now (St. Clair and Spadina), and they are pretty efficient.

- GO Trains connect the suburbs to the downtown core, and they are basically how anyone living outside of downtown Toronto get into the city if they are not using a car.

- Subways here run ever 5 minutes, unless there is a delay (Surprisingly rare), so the system is pretty efficient.

Despite all of this. I agree, the system is pretty weak, but after moving here my car's been sitting idle on my drive-way on a daily basis. I can easily get anywhere in the city, using my car only to leave the city. They are doing a lot to increase the subway line, but are also adding a lot more dedicated light rail lines.

Re: Subways of the world, to scale

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Post by buster »

tome wrote: post #38
buster wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, out of two days i've visited London i had the pleasure to walk one station (and because of the elevator being overrun by people, i took the stairs.. the thing i've learned was that the London underground can be quite deep in the ground, it felt like kilometers :P ).

I completely misunderstood what you were saying. Please see my edit.

I actually upvoted it.. don't know what its about with all those downvotes.

Re: Subways of the world, to scale

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Post by Someone »

hugh3 wrote: post #10
Empact wrote: post #7

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Alright, so if I'm evaluating the benefits of adding an additional 20 miles of track length to the system, should I added at the low-density edges or the high-density core? How would you evaluate the benefits of the two options? He's said that the core option would get several times more ridership. And I'm sorry you bring up his city of residence. As a Texas-born New Yorker, I'm particularly sensitive to this fallaci…

San Francisco faces a lot of problems which DC doesn't when designing a subway system. Apart from the fact that there's a honking great bay in the middle of the metropolitan area, I'm not sure it's possible for BART to serve much more of San Francisco proper than it already does. Why? Well, if you go north of the BART line you're rapidly into the hills, so either you have to take the trains up the grade (bad idea) or…

I'm not an engineer, but I live in the Netherlands, so I am qualified to tell you that it is possible to build tunnels under reclaimed land. Just like with tunnels under a waterway, you just have to take some precautions to prevent the tunnel from flooding or floating.

Re: Subways of the world, to scale

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Post by inanimate »

CWIZO wrote: post #22

Interesting, I always thought London had the biggest underground network. As far as I know Glasgow is missing. Which city, do you think, has the best one? I've only been on the underground in London, Glasgow and Munich. And to me, London seems the best, you really don't need a car there (well at least in the centre).

Madrid's metro has always been my favorite. Very extensive network, high density of stations, inexpensive (1€ per ride last time I was there), and most stations are pretty modern.

Re: Subways of the world, to scale

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Post by georgecmu »

Well, technically, not all of these are strictly subways: there's plenty of above-ground lines represented here.

Still, it's very interesting to see these to scale. I did not realize Parisian subway system was so compact.

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