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A new Xbox controller to make gaming accessible to more people with disabilities

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Re: A new Xbox controller to make gaming accessible to more people with disabilities

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Consider PC gaming. Lots of games work perfectly well with just the mouse.

And there are lots of options in mouse selection, MMO mice can have dozens of buttons, the Roccat Nyth even allows replacing of the side-buttons with custom molds.

Also MMO keyboards / controllers and one-handed keyboards (like the Maltron)

Re: A new Xbox controller to make gaming accessible to more people with disabilities

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I can only use one hand. I use to play video games all of the time but once game controllers started requiring two hands and shoulder buttons, I couldn't play most games. I could play some games with fighting controllers ( https://www.amazon.com/HORI-Fighting-Commander-Officially-Li... ) I also tried one of these - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-Playstation-handed-Dragon-cont... - but could never get the hang of it. I…

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/05/xbox-adaptive-control...

That goes into the things you can plug in to the back and usb, looks really flexible

Re: A new Xbox controller to make gaming accessible to more people with disabilities

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post #34

as someone with a visual impairment I am always amazed at how little we talk/learn about accessibility and its lack of inclusion in the tests of new products. I like this "inclusive desing" term better though. (even though its the method to achieve accessibility)

It's market optimization. 99% of any new product's potential initial userbase does not have accessibility issues. Especially startups need to focus on getting the highest return on investment initially, before proceeding to smaller groups of potential customers. This is also why most new products are launched in the US first - huge market, no borders - instead of Europe where people have to deal with a few dozen languages and local laws.

Re: A new Xbox controller to make gaming accessible to more people with disabilities

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I find it amazing that Microsoft can be doing this sort of thing, mean while, at the windows team they decided to change that windows taskbar sound control tool so that you now need to do “start->control panel->soundoptions” to change your primary source, rather than just right clicking the damn icon. One in a long range of terrible designs for windows. How can a company simultaneously be so great and so terrible at…

In the same vein though, the Windows team added in an Eye Control accessibility option [0] allowing users to control the OS with just their eyes. So the answer here would just be that the teams are so large that they can make phenomenal decisions and also plenty of bad ones.

[0] https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/garage/wall-of-fame/eye-cont...

Re: A new Xbox controller to make gaming accessible to more people with disabilities

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This is amazing. Microsoft frequently does things that offer amazing new ways of interfacing AND are hackable enough to have flexible applications. I have fond memories of owning and "hacking" the Kinect and connecting it to my PC, to develop custom code to control media playback and stuff. I never owned one, but the Surface also looked quite unique. However, I feel these products don't reach the level of "lovability…

Mostly because the majority of users aren't interested in hackability of devices.

Kinect didn't have much in the way of software, and the OTS stuff was clunky. It also followed on after the Wii, which also featured clunky software, also had tremendous 1st party support to keep it viable.

Re: A new Xbox controller to make gaming accessible to more people with disabilities

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There is also a personal angle to Microsoft involvement with these type of initiatives. The CEO has two children with disabilities and it looks like he is pushing for an inclusive company more than any other CEO. There is also Gobabygo which is an open source organization that modifies toy cars for children with disabilities http://sites.udel.edu/gobabygo/

> the CEO has two children with disabilities

Interesting video with Nadella discussing this:

https://www.facebook.com/bloombergbusiness/videos/1547448801...

Re: A new Xbox controller to make gaming accessible to more people with disabilities

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I can only use one hand. I use to play video games all of the time but once game controllers started requiring two hands and shoulder buttons, I couldn't play most games. I could play some games with fighting controllers ( https://www.amazon.com/HORI-Fighting-Commander-Officially-Li... ) I also tried one of these - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-Playstation-handed-Dragon-cont... - but could never get the hang of it. I…

The "main" control pad doesn't seem like necessarily the most important thing: the most important thing is that on the back of the controller, there's a whole row of ports that you can use to plug in standard assitive devices into (buttons, pedals, sticks, whatever) to act as controller inputs. The idea is that it should be as flexible as possible to adapt to everyone's needs. I'm sure you would be able to find a solution for the games you want to play.

Re: A new Xbox controller to make gaming accessible to more people with disabilities

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Can we swap "disabled people" for "people with disabilities" please?

No, passive voice is poor style. And there's no guarantee it will last long before someone decides to be offended by that too.

It looks like the passive voice is not something that is well understood by you.

Re: A new Xbox controller to make gaming accessible to more people with disabilities

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I find it amazing that Microsoft can be doing this sort of thing, mean while, at the windows team they decided to change that windows taskbar sound control tool so that you now need to do “start->control panel->soundoptions” to change your primary source, rather than just right clicking the damn icon. One in a long range of terrible designs for windows. How can a company simultaneously be so great and so terrible at…

Not sure what you mean, but you can change your primary audio source by clicking the right corner arrow on the little window that pops out when you click the speaker icon. EDIT: PIC https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/img_57d... Also this literally doesn't have anything to do with the subject of this thread.

Yep. They actually made it MUCH easier to change your default audio source in Windows 10 (not sure which particular release this change came in).
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