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Re: Reddit's redesign increases power usage of user's devices

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Post by kmfrk »

jumpman500 wrote: post #3

What are the best Reddit clones these days? I've seen voat but heard it's overrun by the alt right. Hubski seemed interesting but basically seems dead now. Anything else out there? Reddit is really losing its appeal to me with their desktop/mobile site changes. That and I feel the contents been getting less interesting. Like it's just memes or sensational politics everywhere. Maybe I'm just getting old.

There just aren't any. The same thing goes for the forums (bulletin boards) I go to.

But Xenforo is a really polished CMS with some good skins beside the god-awful default one. It's no vBulletin.

Re: Reddit's redesign increases power usage of user's devices

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Post by JustSomeNobody »

rland wrote: post #14

I do not understand what extra functionality is gained by making the site so much slower. I go on Reddit primarily for text content. Threaded comments and HTML tags. WHY does it NEED to be so SLOW? For this degree of sluggishness, it feels like you could build a site that fulfills all of reddit's functionality—and have a crypto miner running in the background.

Because the comment thread has to pop out and have a fancy grayed out background and infinite scroll and ... and ... because Javascript, dude! More Javascript makes everything slower, but it's so much better.

Re: Reddit's redesign increases power usage of user's devices

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Post by JustSomeNobody »

tomc1985 wrote: post #16
Skunkleton wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hacker News isn't a bad alternative ;)

This place has a really strong pro-cloud pro-JS bent tho

Of course it is because it serves the startup community and something like 99.999% of startups are web apps and ... well... javascript.

Re: Reddit's redesign increases power usage of user's devices

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Post by cathhhhji »

stephengillie wrote: post #90
kowdermeister wrote: post #48

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Do you REALLY think they engineered it intentionally slow?

To switch from black/white hat hacker to tinfoil hat... who would make money from Reddit's site being slower and using more electricity?

The Jews

Re: Reddit's redesign increases power usage of user's devices

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Post by thiht »

JustSomeNobody wrote: post #168
thiht wrote: post #165

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> The previous design was great Is this a bad joke? I don't want to judge the new design, but the old design was really, REALLY bad. It was complicated, bloated, a lot of stuff was hidden, the colors were ugly... nothing was right Is this some kind of HN-wide practical joke or do you really believe that 90's style design was somehow any better? Also if this is actually your opinion, do you realize it's probably margi…

Was it slow?

No, but it sucked either way

Re: Reddit's redesign increases power usage of user's devices

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Post by JustSomeNobody »

rnet85 wrote: post #151
jumpman500 wrote: post #3

What are the best Reddit clones these days? I've seen voat but heard it's overrun by the alt right. Hubski seemed interesting but basically seems dead now. Anything else out there? Reddit is really losing its appeal to me with their desktop/mobile site changes. That and I feel the contents been getting less interesting. Like it's just memes or sensational politics everywhere. Maybe I'm just getting old.

Like with anything, you need to carefully curate what you consume. Like Twitter, Reddit can be an excellent place if you follow only subreddits that intrigue you.

Exactly. There are some really good communities on Reddit and really awful communities on Reddit.

A couple examples of good ones:

/r/homelab /r/homeserver /r/selfhosted

Re: Reddit's redesign increases power usage of user's devices

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Post by mercer »

robbomacrae wrote: post #153
stcredzero wrote: post #134

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Hows Geocities doin? Sometimes you need to evolve to survive. Are you suggesting that I think evolution is wrong? Would that really be a fair reading of my comment? We got stuck with the old codebase and adding features was a nightmare - features a lot of users were demanding! A positive suggestion for a future project: Implement a new UI with a newer fancy framework -- but have it emulate the old UI. (It should be f…

Sorry for the late reply - was out. And for putting words in your mouth. I understand now your more about incremental steps rather than drastic changes. Thanks for the feedback. As I'm not on the web or redesign team I don't know how feasible that would have been.. I know there was a ton of stuff being done in strange ways with the legacy system.. but I can promise that with the new framework we will be able to make…

I gotta say your comments are not inspiring much confidence.

Generally speaking, I love 'new' stuff, and even welcome non-backwards-compatible breaks with the old to get rid of cruft/legacy issues. But with the Reddit redesign I definitely feel that it goes way beyond that and instead does a whole lot of things that seem more 'state of the art front-end bandwagon-ey' than is prudent.

Basically, I get the impression that while the redesign might include a whole bunch of stuff that redditors have been asking for, it's primarily not made with that target audience in mind. Who the actual target audience is I'm not sure, but I imagine their interests don't align with most users. I'd be happy to be proven wrong though.

(and honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the actual target audience is 'front-end reddit devs who like to use the coolest newest stuff')

Re: Reddit's redesign increases power usage of user's devices

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Post by tgb »

just_observing wrote: post #163
tgb wrote: post #101

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So this is veering off-topic: I remember but cannot for the life of me find a blog post from Google about either the number of bytes in their front page or the number of words on the front page. Apparently there was some guy who would email them just a number "23" or whatever it was that gave the number of bytes/words on google.com every time they updated it. After being puzzled by these emails for a while they figur…

Here you go :) https://googleblog.blogspot.co.uk/2008/07/what-comes-next-in...

Thanks but how did you find this? I guess the fact that it was co.uk meant my site-restricted searches failed.

Re: Reddit's redesign increases power usage of user's devices

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Post by AstralStorm »

JoshMnem wrote: post #123
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #71

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I have definitely noticed that YouTube is one of the few sites that causes my desktop to struggle when loading the page. Gmail is oddly heavy in this regard too. I worry that google might not be paying enough attention to load times or resource utilization.

Google Plus was so heavy that it barely ran on my old netbook with 4 Gb of RAM. I think that if it had looked a bit more like Craig's List it would have had a much better chance of success. (seriously) The Web needs an anti-bloat movement where animation is minimized and documents are mostly server-rendered.

No to the latter.

Instead please extend HTML with useful entries and stop using Javascript for layout and handling connections and refreshes.

What you said suggest the use of migrated like Google AMP. Server side had no idea how things are supposed to be rendered. Trying to force it via JS is an extra crock.

Re: Reddit's redesign increases power usage of user's devices

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Post by [deleted] »

TaylorAlexander wrote: post #71
frfl wrote: post #22

Anyone from reddit's dev team reading this? Or youtube's dev team, because my question applies to both. The previous design was great. The new version of both sites is slow, sluggish and provides me with no benefit. Why was the change implemented? The previous design wasn't broken! How's the user feedback? A/B testing really indicated to you this was a good choice?! If you have any insight -- I'm sure this was a deci…

I have definitely noticed that YouTube is one of the few sites that causes my desktop to struggle when loading the page. Gmail is oddly heavy in this regard too. I worry that google might not be paying enough attention to load times or resource utilization.

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