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Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by freeflight »

viraptor wrote: post #58
ikeboy wrote: post #43

>If you are a subscriber to Google Play Music, good news, you get a YouTube Music Premium membership as part of your subscription each month. Calling it now, within 5 years there are at least 5 different Google services for streaming music (up from 3 now, Play Music/Youtube/Youtube Music) at least 2 of which are also somehow messaging apps. It's even plausible, one for VR music videos, one for streaming in your self…

YouTube already includes comments and a chat on live streams, so close to a messaging app ;-) Seriously though, YouTube is not a music service, or at least it looks like they don't want it to be, since the interface isn't really great for that case. It also kills phone battery if you use it that way, so YouTube music is an experience upgrade.

> YouTube is not a music service

I have to disagree there, it's become my new de-facto music service on my desktop/tablet, at least since I failed to properly move my iTunes database and lost/unorganized large parts of my music collection.

The autoplay and mix playlist features are great for discovering new artists, even tho the algorithm can get a bit repetitive and after a while starts populating many lists with the same songs, having the music videos to many songs is also a great added bonus.

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by daminimal »

King-Aaron wrote: post #66
pjmlp wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As usual, just a few privileged European countries. Looking forward for an EU wide law to force lazy US companies to either offer the service to everyone or not at all.

They'll likely be doing a soft deployment so that they can catch any issues as the user-base scales up. Everyone expects everything immediately these days :(

No, absolutely not the case. In Estonia for example, you are extremely lucky if you are able to actually consume services or any meaningful amount of content in services by registering your account to be in this country. Basically, it's not worth the effort of entry even to the country for large companies, so they don't.

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by kalleboo »

pjmlp wrote: post #50
balls187 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's in the article. Starting Tuesday, we're rolling out the new YouTube Music experience in the U.S., Australia, New Zealand, Mexico and South Korea*. It will expand more broadly in the coming weeks. We’ll also soon be launching in Austria, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Norway, Russia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and the United Kingdom.

As usual, just a few privileged European countries. Looking forward for an EU wide law to force lazy US companies to either offer the service to everyone or not at all.

The EU is (very slowly) moving in that direction. Last year they introduced legislation so that you can travel throughout the EU with your subscriptions[0] and the next step is to change copyright rules to a country of origin principle so that if you own the broadcast rights in one EU country, you are also allowed to deliver it to other EU countries[1]

[0] https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/cross-border-p...

[1] https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/news/proposal-...

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by culturestate »

dexen wrote: post #77
tokyodude wrote: post #61

YouTube is the only service I've used that gets WORSE if you pay. Without paying I can watch one video on my TV while browsing other videos on my laptop to queue up. With paying as soon as look up a video on my laptop I get an error on the tv "only one device allowed"

They are following in the footsteps of the movie industry, which also provides worse experience to the paying customer. Pay for movie theater ticket, get served 30+ minutes of ads. (edit) Pay for DVD, get unskippable "antipiracy ads". Torrent the movie, and you'll be watching the movie in under 3 minutes of download.

> Pay for movie theater ticket, get served 30+ minutes of ads.

In Thailand, there is (was?) a 5-minute-long (literally) memorial video dedicated to King Rama IX before every movie. Everyone in the theatre is expected to stand for the video's entirety - after the 30 minutes of ads and trailers.

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by reificator »

bryogenic wrote: post #151
reificator wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. I used to be able to play a non-music youtube video on my phone while playing music in the background. Now it's one or the other, and I can't even get around it by playing music on another device since I use Google Play Music. Shame Google Play Music is going away, it does some cool things. It lets me upload my own music so I can actually listen to Tool on a streaming service.[0] It lets me build up a collection…

> Shame Google Play Music is going away What makes you say that? From the linked blog: > If you are a subscriber to Google Play Music, good news, you get a YouTube Music Premium membership as part of your subscription each month. And if you use Google Play Music, nothing will change -- you’ll still be able to access all of your purchased music, uploads and playlists in Google Play Music just like always.

> What makes you say that?

Years and years of experience with cloud-hosted products and anything that requires official support to continue to function.

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by giancarlostoro »

tokyodude wrote: post #61

YouTube is the only service I've used that gets WORSE if you pay. Without paying I can watch one video on my TV while browsing other videos on my laptop to queue up. With paying as soon as look up a video on my laptop I get an error on the tv "only one device allowed"

Not sure I've ever run into this problem but I pay to have my fiancée added to my subscription.

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by Cub3 »

Have they figured out family plans with "Google Apps" accounts yet? I just want a Google family plan with a custom domain for my email, still can't figure out how to do this.

Also when I click:

> try “that hipster song with the whistling”

The uploader has not made this video available in your country.

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by karpodiem »

dvcrn wrote: post #138

I wonder what happens to self-uploaded music. I read that it's being migrated, but will we still be able to upload, or will this disappear? The only reason why I'm not with Spotify, but with Google Music (or now Apple music as test) is because I have a lot of songs that are just not covered in their catalogues that I uploaded myself.

This is the $1000 question. Google Play Music will live in the short term, but this comment from Google indicates that Google Play Music will eventually be retired - “it’s critical we have one offering that meets the needs of consumers and artists.”

Source - https://www.droid-life.com/2018/05/16/youtube-music-price-la...

Will YouTube Music launch with feature parity w/Google Play Music and offer an upload function so that users can stream tracks they upload themselves?

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by gldalmaso »

birdman3131 wrote: post #17

What sells me on spotify is the ability to control it from any device. Listening on my phone while at my computer? Hit skip on my keyboard and the phone skips to the next track. Playing on my Dot? I can pause right from my phone. Ditto with volume control. I wanted to like amazon music but I could not because of the lack of these features.

Different story for me. I listen to desktop spotify while at work regularly. Every time I lock my computer to go have lunch and want to listen to spotify on my car, there is the dreaded "Listen on this device option" which will randomly appear either right when I start playing on my phone or 5 minutes later when I'm already driving and my phone is locked, which stops the current playing music.

Also, if I choose to listen on the new device, it starts playing whatever was playing on the last device, which usually is not what I want since I have different offline lists on different devices. If I'm already playing something on the device, don't ask me to listen to what was on the other device, honor my latest input please.

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