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Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by mathieuh » Thu, May 17, 2018, 9:11 AM UTC

IshKebab wrote: post #128

18973424 wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YouTube Red is the stupidest thing ever. It advertises as "youtube without ads", but the majority of ad content is embedded into the videos by the creators in the form of often undisclosed product placement.

Good point. I wonder if Google will start banning that to make YouTube Red/Premium more attractive.

As far as I know they do keep track of videos that have undisclosed product placement, I'm fairly sure I've read that videos that do that are getting demonetised.

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, May 17, 2018, 9:14 AM UTC

chrisper wrote: post #115

pjmlp wrote: post #105

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We already have quite a few German and French mixes, just need to pick which one you like best. It just irks me that only the big countries get the goodies, and then some of the smaller ones eventually get it, if ever.

Hey, Switzerland is not that big!

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Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by em3rgent0rdr » Thu, May 17, 2018, 9:15 AM UTC

How long until it's discontinued?

Oh, and btw, with tools like NewPipe, I can listen without ads.

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by rtpg » Thu, May 17, 2018, 9:17 AM UTC

fluxsauce wrote: post #5

dhruvrrp wrote: post #3

So what is the Youtube Music app that has been on my iPhone for months? And what happens to Google Play Music, google's other music streaming service?

> And if you use Google Play Music, nothing will change -- you’ll still be able to access all of your purchased music, uploads and playlists in Google Play Music just like always.

Great! The one big reason I sticked with GPM is being able to upload tracks that just aren't on streaming services.

I kinda like the social aspects of Spotify but I really like having random OSTs/DJ mixes all in the same spot

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by hknd » Thu, May 17, 2018, 9:21 AM UTC

tokyodude wrote: post #61

YouTube is the only service I've used that gets WORSE if you pay. Without paying I can watch one video on my TV while browsing other videos on my laptop to queue up. With paying as soon as look up a video on my laptop I get an error on the tv "only one device allowed"

So I'm use red simultaneously on my TV (androidtv), my laptop, my phone and my tablet. All without any issues.

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by hknd » Thu, May 17, 2018, 9:22 AM UTC

ikeboy wrote: post #43

>If you are a subscriber to Google Play Music, good news, you get a YouTube Music Premium membership as part of your subscription each month. Calling it now, within 5 years there are at least 5 different Google services for streaming music (up from 3 now, Play Music/Youtube/Youtube Music) at least 2 of which are also somehow messaging apps. It's even plausible, one for VR music videos, one for streaming in your self…

They will probably deprecate the old ones and merge everything in youtube (which would make sense).

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by sidyapa » Thu, May 17, 2018, 9:23 AM UTC

Just a suggestion, why not just allow background playback instead of spending your millions on another streaming app which would be ideally better than competition in single digit %s?

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by dvcrn » Thu, May 17, 2018, 9:35 AM UTC

I wonder what happens to self-uploaded music. I read that it's being migrated, but will we still be able to upload, or will this disappear?

The only reason why I'm not with Spotify, but with Google Music (or now Apple music as test) is because I have a lot of songs that are just not covered in their catalogues that I uploaded myself.

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by djpowell » Thu, May 17, 2018, 9:39 AM UTC

dingaling wrote: post #125

notatoad wrote: post #97

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the youtube red announcement also said it was coming to canada "soon". given that they rebranded the whole service quicker than they could manage to expand to Canada, i don't have too much hope for youtube's definition of soon.

A few weeks ago I had a pre-roll ad for YouTube Red. Being in the UK I assumed this meant it was finally launching here but when I followed-up it was still the original set of countries. I don't understand the roadblock. They already have license to show the videos, just give me them without ads!

Could they be making more money from ads than they expect to make from a reasonably priced premium version?

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by chatmasta » Thu, May 17, 2018, 9:41 AM UTC

oblio wrote: post #101

ikeboy wrote: post #43

>If you are a subscriber to Google Play Music, good news, you get a YouTube Music Premium membership as part of your subscription each month. Calling it now, within 5 years there are at least 5 different Google services for streaming music (up from 3 now, Play Music/Youtube/Youtube Music) at least 2 of which are also somehow messaging apps. It's even plausible, one for VR music videos, one for streaming in your self…

Google operates under the assumption that they're making a "free market": they have a ton of services, some competing directly, and in the end a winner emerges and snuffs everyone else out. I guess someone should tell them about the paradox of choice, branch dilution and the fact that despite Google being big, they're not an entire market unto themselves. Google: make 1 big, single, integrated service and when a star…

I’ve heard this meme repeated before, but is there any example of when it actually worked for them? Is there a single google product that was originally one of many internally and is now the market leader?

I can only think of counter examples... everywhere google spreads too thin they lose market share to competitors. Messaging is the prime example.