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Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by oblio »

ikeboy wrote: post #43

>If you are a subscriber to Google Play Music, good news, you get a YouTube Music Premium membership as part of your subscription each month. Calling it now, within 5 years there are at least 5 different Google services for streaming music (up from 3 now, Play Music/Youtube/Youtube Music) at least 2 of which are also somehow messaging apps. It's even plausible, one for VR music videos, one for streaming in your self…

Google operates under the assumption that they're making a "free market": they have a ton of services, some competing directly, and in the end a winner emerges and snuffs everyone else out.

I guess someone should tell them about the paradox of choice, branch dilution and the fact that despite Google being big, they're not an entire market unto themselves.

Google: make 1 big, single, integrated service and when a startup supplants you in your selected market, just buy them for $15 billion.

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by omnimus »

iforgotpassword wrote: post #92
birdman3131 wrote: post #17

What sells me on spotify is the ability to control it from any device. Listening on my phone while at my computer? Hit skip on my keyboard and the phone skips to the next track. Playing on my Dot? I can pause right from my phone. Ditto with volume control. I wanted to like amazon music but I could not because of the lack of these features.

Did you set this up manually? I'm not using Spotify but this sounds rather confusing. Is it at least smart enough to recognize when there's something else playing on your computer and send the skip command to that app instead of your phone if you hit the skip key?

You can only listen on one device at a time so this never hapoens. All devices states are synced and one of them is playing

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by pjmlp »

King-Aaron wrote: post #66
pjmlp wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As usual, just a few privileged European countries. Looking forward for an EU wide law to force lazy US companies to either offer the service to everyone or not at all.

They'll likely be doing a soft deployment so that they can catch any issues as the user-base scales up. Everyone expects everything immediately these days :(

No, what is expect is stop being dealt as 2nd level country, if we ever get to it.

I never bought the XBox 360, because the store wasn't open for indie developers in Portugal.

But yeah, at least we were on the "we are considering it" list.

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by pjmlp »

tobyhinloopen wrote: post #86
pjmlp wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As usual, just a few privileged European countries. Looking forward for an EU wide law to force lazy US companies to either offer the service to everyone or not at all.

We should introduce a EU wide everything before that can happen :) Like an official EU language. Maybe we can mix some German and French together to create some kind of EUber language. Lets call it EUber. J'heisse Hans Müller. Wilkommen-vous Maybe add some Spanish and Ikea language as well.

We already have quite a few German and French mixes, just need to pick which one you like best.

It just irks me that only the big countries get the goodies, and then some of the smaller ones eventually get it, if ever.

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by icebraining »

nerdponx wrote: post #52
bestnameever wrote: post #29

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Google support told me the opposite. Why does everything need to be so confusing?

Because Google absolutely does not care about you as a consumer.

It's not clear how this benefits their advertisers either, though. It just seems like poor planning.

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by baud147258 »

dexen wrote: post #77
tokyodude wrote: post #61

YouTube is the only service I've used that gets WORSE if you pay. Without paying I can watch one video on my TV while browsing other videos on my laptop to queue up. With paying as soon as look up a video on my laptop I get an error on the tv "only one device allowed"

They are following in the footsteps of the movie industry, which also provides worse experience to the paying customer. Pay for movie theater ticket, get served 30+ minutes of ads. (edit) Pay for DVD, get unskippable "antipiracy ads". Torrent the movie, and you'll be watching the movie in under 3 minutes of download.

Well, when the movie is in theather, there are rarely good quality (non-cam) torrents available and the screen is usually bigger than at home, but it might not be a factor, depending on the viewer or the movie. But it's true when it reach DVD, you'll still have to watch the anti-piracy ads.

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by lathiat »

realusername wrote: post #54
balls187 wrote: post #37

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I'm not sure your exact use case, but if you are a Youtube red subscriber, the official IOS app continues to play audio if the app is in the background.

Ah really? I'm on Android and don't have a Youtube account at all. I mean the app should work the same way as desktop, the video does not stop when I switch tabs on my browser... I understand that they are trying to sell Youtube Red this way but there's probably a better way than sabotaging their own app.

I think the reality of why they do this is to stop people using YouTube as a free music player, which unfortunately is a very common usage.

It's a shame this restricts other youtube videos too though, such as creators / original content / etc. I'd really also love to use Picture-in-Picture on iOS.

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by icebraining »

weavie wrote: post #98
iforgotpassword wrote: post #92

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Did you set this up manually? I'm not using Spotify but this sounds rather confusing. Is it at least smart enough to recognize when there's something else playing on your computer and send the skip command to that app instead of your phone if you hit the skip key?

It knows which device is currently playing. Anything you do sends it to the currently playing device. You can pull up a list of all connected devices and select which one you want to be playing. It then starts on the new device from where the old one left off. It works really well. I have my raspberry pi plugged into my amplifier, and play through that. I control it with my phone or laptop, whichever is nearer.

I think the question is about the media keys. What happens if your phone is playing something on Spotify, and your laptop is playing something on VLC, but also has Spotify open? Does pressing the skip media key make both players skip, or just one of them?

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by SllX »

fluxsauce wrote: post #67
SllX wrote: post #62

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Well we're at 4 or 4.5 now. 1. YouTube 1.5 YT Music (basically a music-oriented front-end to YouTube) 2. Google Play Music All-Access 3. YouTube Music Premium (from the article) 4. (or 3.5) VEVO I particularly enjoyed this quote: > The days of jumping back and forth between multiple music apps and YouTube are over. As the above list shows, this is demonstrably false. Given that YouTube Red (or YouTube Premium as they…

> maybe they'll buy up PornHub and add PornHub subscriptions to the stack whether you want it or not, just to make your recurring monthly payments a bit stickier Purely from a payment processing point of view, unless Google wants to fight Visa, MasterCard and other institutions this will never happen. There are a lot of restrictions around content and payment processors that you would assume is covered by freedom of…

Obviously this is an opportunity for Google to get into the business of making more payment apps. They're way behind the curve on that compared to their music and chat services, only having two at this point (Google Pay and Tez).

There is an obvious hole right there that I'm sure they could fill with a blockchain or anonymous gift cards. Or both! They could be the leading service provider for using the blockchain to verify gift cards in a distributed ledger and use it as middleware to convert gift cards into Google Points. What are Google Points good for? Anything cash is good for! So buying ad placements (on Google), music subscriptions (provided by Google), extra cloud storage (in the Google Cloud of course, 'scuse me, Google One), stock (in GOOG) and groceries (via Google Express).

Or you know, they could just inherit whatever agreements PornHub has with their existing payment processor that covers PornHub Premium on their way to reinventing Prime. That isn't as sexy as making 5 more payment apps though. Definitely not as sticky and not enough blockchain.

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